Thanks I appreciate the kind thoughts i’m quite tough I don’t let people walk over me but it’s nice to be in a forum where people think about you, that’s a rarity so to all who have given advice and has been kind which you all have and to Andy for being really helpful I thank you all and I’m really glad I’ve joined this forum hopefully. I will learn more by staying here, I’m training as a Cisco network engineer so I have a thirst for knowledge and I’m sure I can learn a lot from all of you, once again thanks for the help