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it's like adding another user than admin if I'm not too forgetful. As I recall on some dahua's there is an ONVIF user/pass and an Admin user/pass.
HIK might have similar.
HIK might have similar.
I Ordered an Axis Communications Axis Q1808-LE Camera
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I went ahead and changed the values to what you recommended. I will start from there tonight. I think going to a 1/30 shutter will make a big difference on the light situation. The zoom setting is at 3.19 on a scale of 1-4. Thank You for your help. Like I said before this camera's settings are different than what I am used to with the Hikvision and Dahus cameras.
People walking by. I may go full out which is 48mm. All the way in is 12mm. IMHO it is probably closer to 1/2 of that going by the other cameras that I have.
Np! It's even different from what I'm used to with other Axis cameras. I tested using the white LED's on my setup with WDR off and it actually works pretty well with the settings I mentioned in my previous post. Last time I tried full color at night I still had the WDR on with it in 4K mode and I didn't like the results. My only concern with your install as opposed to mine is that people and vehicles have to walk towards my camera with my field of view as opposed to yours they're walking across it. Which makes it more difficult to have less motion blur with your field of view. I guess we'll find out tonight.
OK. I finally figured out how to turn on the white light. Hahahaha, it was easy once I located the control. This has made a difference on the one person who walked by. I will review the video tomorrow looking for people who walked by. With the light on I can increase the shutter speed seemly without affecting the picture quality. Right now, I am 1/60. This will probably take a few nights to fine tune. It is a big learning curve for me. I may also look into increasing the wattage on one of my security lights that point in that direction.
Well, this morning the white light did not turn off on the camera at daylight. Another item I have to solve. I think it has to do with the IR-cut-filter part of the program. At least the camera is showing promise, and I am making headway inch by inch.
How do you have the white light set to activate? On a schedule or by rule activation? If by schedule, is the camera synced to an NTP server with the proper time zone selected?
From what I read you have to have the IR-cut-filter on auto and there is a threshold slider that goes from bright to dark. The white light turns on and off with that. Now if I have to do it by a schedule or rule activation, please let me know how or where that is done. I read the manual, and I did not see anything on it. Thank You in advance.
Edit: I am trying to run the camera in color 24/7.
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That threshold slider is for the IR Cut Filter. Notice if you disable the IR light or set the IR Cut filter to on the slider disappears. I suspect you manually activated the white light by clicking on the bulb icon in the image menu under the live preview. I don't think the white light automatically activates based on how dark it is outside. I could be wrong but I'll try and clarify that tomorrow.
To activate the white light based on a schedule go to System- Events and click schedules at the top menu. Create a start and end time of your choice. Then click on the "rules" tab at the top. Create a new rule. Set the condition as schedule and select the schedule you created. Then go to action and scroll down to Illumination, select use lights while this rule is active. Under the light menu, select white light. This will keep the white light on during the hours you specified in the schedule.
You can also only have the white lights activate based on a person/vehicle entering a specific area. To do this, create an AOA scenario of your choice (go to apps, Axis Object Analytics click open and create a scenario). Follow the steps I provided above to create a rule to active them when a person/vehicle enters the area you defined. Instead of setting the condition as schedule, you set Object Analytics: "Scenario You Created" as the condition, set action to use white lights and I have mine configured to leave them on for about 2 minutes after the event ended.
Edit: How did the camera perform last night with the white light on?
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Here is some video from last night. Also clicking on Vivid in the Stream Profile made a difference for the better. I was surprised at that. One other surprise with this camera is the Sharpness. I have it set at 100. I put my Dahua PTZ with the 4/3" sensor to the same area for comparison. With that camera I have the sharpness set at 25. I would say the video from the two cameras was comparable. Maybe slightly less noise from the Axis. Smitcans, I will go ahead and set up the schedule for the white light as you suggested. This morning, I also moved my nighttime security camera a little to give more light in that area.
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I went back in and edited a couple of things one was making it public. See if it works now.
This is Your second video, which shows that this camera can do nice static image at night, but moving people are a problem..
Image of moving people are noisy and ghosted... there are huge compression artifacts around people (but this can be Youtube compression).
Sony Image Sensor is good, but for me it looks like video processing (ISP - Image Signal Processor) is not at 2024 / AI standards...
Can You download footage directly to forum as part of post (like image)?
ps. at what shutter time this footage were done? 1/30 1/60 1/120?
The YouTube video looks the same as the video live on the camera going by my naked eye. The shutter speed is 1/60. I am hoping that a little more light helps, Yes, I will download a static image from my NVR storage from last night.
This person don't look ok...
there is noise on his clothes and face..
color deconstruction is very bad (also on trees)...
face have no details...
right leg in motion is very blurred.
there are huge compression artifacts around / behind that person..
there is noise on his clothes and face..
color deconstruction is very bad (also on trees)...
face have no details...
right leg in motion is very blurred.
there are huge compression artifacts around / behind that person..
^^^^^ I agree with you. Hopefully tonight I can take care of a good portion of that issue. I was hoping to up the shutter speed to 1/120 but when I did that it darkened things up too much at the current settings. That is also the darkest area of that scene.
shorter shutter speed will not help - main problem is that there is to little light catches by sensor in that place.
All problems (noise, ghosting, wrong color reconstruction, lack of details) are mostly from that...
only blurry part is from too long exposure...
I don't know what tools You have there in Axis configuration (like gain/ISO control, 2D and 3D noise reduction etc)..
Well, I have adjusted one of my security lights to hopefully light up that area a little bit more. Yes, you can adjust the gain. I have not seen the others listed as that. Axis may call it something else. I will look into it.