Israel attacked by Hamas...

We invaded a few countries and killed a lot of them..remember? But we didn’t eliminate the populations and indeed fed them and more afterwards
 
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My disdain for Israel isn’t entirely about Gaza . The manipulation of our own country is even more disturbing.
 
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It seems the only persons left who don’t consider Israel’s actions genocide are Israelis and this in the US controlled by them

 
d5775927 said:
Sounds like a good idea, but when you say trade, you mean, buy Gaza for money?
If so, Gazans would probably not agree to that.
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They also turned down every proposed Statehood solution ever presented to them. They only want the land from the river to the sea...and to annulate anyone that presently exist on that land...Jews first...
 
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d5775927 said:
I've never been in Gaza and cannot tell what exactly is going on there.
What I do know, is that they are holding civilians as hostages, for almost two years, the civilians are starved and tortured and some of them are already dead.
Let me remind you that Hamas started this war and doesn't want to end it by returning the hostages.
You cannot differentiate Hamas from Gazans, since, Hamas lives in the same place Gazans live and doesn't wear uniform, which means more "univloved" causalities.
I don't claim the IDF is totally innocent and always fight by the rules, but mostly they do try (or at least this is what I believe).


What do you think Russia or the US would have done to Gaza if they were in the shoes of Israel?
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This was worth watching ..

 
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Israel, prior to Oct 7th there was a very strong peace contingent of Israelis who wanted some better peace with the Palestinians and were reflective of the Israeli accountability.

After Oct 7th that group basically got squashed.

Lesson is that extremists want to destroy peace to achieve their goals. ( applies to all sides here .. Arab, Islamic, Jewish, .. )

d5775927 said:
What do you think Russia or the US would have done to Gaza if they were in the shoes of Israel?
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Russia .. genocide based on their current standard method of operations

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They would then use any men in the captured territory as "meat" for the war grinder ..

oh and the children .. profit

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USA .. depends, 10-20 year occupation and a bundle of $$ and then leave even better weapons and money after making a peace deal with Hamas and turning over the territory back to Hamas

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The last 25% of Gaza will be the big last push by Israel I foresee...in order to take control of Gaza...
 
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d5775927 said:
Sounds like a good idea, but when you say trade, you mean, buy Gaza for money?
If so, Gazans would probably not agree to that.
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I don't think Gazans would be happy about it anyway it was done, but what I mean is give them land for free in the West Bank in exchange for Gaza. Ie facilitate it as a land exchange.
 
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CCTVCam said:
I don't think Gazans would be happy about it anyway it was done, but what I mean is give them land for free in the West Bank in exchange for Gaza. Ie facilitate it as a land exchange.
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But land in the west bank doesn't belong to Israel, it belongs to the Palestinian authority.

Also, the last "land" deal Israel made with Gazans, didn't end well (Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia).
If you move Gazans closer to the center of Israel, you risk a lot more population.
So, unless they are relocated near the border with Jordan, they may pose a greater threat.
If they are located near the border of Jordan, it will be easier for them to dig tunnels to Jordan or smuggle weapons from or to there.
Also, you assume the Palestinian authority will approve such a move, which I highly doubt.
 
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