My aluminum soffit is not rigid enough to properly support the cams. This is, in part, the reason for using aluminum flat bar. Second, the only hole to be made is one just large enough for the Cat6 which is easily plugged with a tiny rubber plug should the camera be removed.
I route the cable in a groove of the soffit that is covered by the aluminum bar. If you don't have grooved vinyl soffit that won't work, but if you do there's no holes at all. To access for wiring I bend the flange of the channel at the gutter side out of the way, it's thin aluminum, and slide a whole section of soffit out for convenience. Bending the flange back into shape, fingers only, only takes a minute or two.
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There's also a tool to install them. The tool removes the need to hold the jack nut firm to keep it from spinning while installing, which would be difficult working overhead. All you gotta do is basically stick your template on the soffit, drill a holes big enough to fit the jack nuts and then compress them with the tool. You're basically left with a rivet with a machine screw hole that can be used over and over again.
Anyone use this flat aluminum bar method with a heavier camera like the PTZ425DB-At or the IPC-B52IR-Z12E-S2 with the PFA121 junction box?
If yes, how deep are your soffits and how sturdy is it? If you happen to remember, what size machine screws did you use?
My eaves/soffits are over 20 inches deep and no backing (vented aluminum). I'd have to use this method or mount them to the wall which I prefer not to. My concerns are are will the aluminum threads strip from the weight and will the gutter end flashing hold up. I can always put a screw near the gutter end for extra support.
Anyone use this flat aluminum bar method with a heavier camera like the PTZ425DB-At or the IPC-B52IR-Z12E-S2 with the PFA121 junction box?
If yes, how deep are your soffits and how sturdy is it? If you happen to remember, what size machine screws did you use?
My eaves/soffits are over 20 inches deep and no backing (vented aluminum). I'd have to use this method mound them to the wall which I prefer not to. My concerns are are will the aluminum threads strip from the weight and will the gutter end flashing hold up. I can always put a screw near the gutter end for extra support.
For the z12e did you use the junction box or just mounted the camera directly to the flat bar? I was ready to mount the junction box but then realized the holes and screws are much larger than the standard turret boxes (like 1/4" diameter for this box vs #8 for the turret box).
The ironic thing about the PTZ was it uses the same diameter screw hole as the turret but more of them. But as you said, I'm not sure I trust it.
Anyone use this flat aluminum bar method with a heavier camera like the PTZ425DB-At or the IPC-B52IR-Z12E-S2 with the PFA121 junction box?
If yes, how deep are your soffits and how sturdy is it? If you happen to remember, what size machine screws did you use?
My eaves/soffits are over 20 inches deep and no backing (vented aluminum). I'd have to use this method or mount them to the wall which I prefer not to. My concerns are are will the aluminum threads strip from the weight and will the gutter end flashing hold up. I can always put a screw near the gutter end for extra support.
What did you end up doing? I just got the same PTZ425DB-AT as you to replace on older dome camera on the second floor soffit. But I think the old camera had only some wood screews directly on the soffit, which would not hold for the PTZ. I thought buying the expensive camera was the most difficult part, but now I am getting scared to hang a $400 heavy camera from a shaky soffit panel. Maybe @EMPIRETECANDY can give us some ideas here.
Yup, I will need to work from the attic for this. I was so happy to get this ptz, works great for my purpose. Now I have to wait for the snow to melt to get up there.
What did you end up doing? I just got the same PTZ425DB-AT as you to replace on older dome camera on the second floor soffit. But I think the old camera had only some wood screews directly on the soffit, which would not hold for the PTZ. I thought buying the expensive camera was the most difficult part, but now I am getting scared to hang a $400 heavy camera from a shaky soffit panel. Maybe @EMPIRETECANDY can give us some ideas here.
I didn't trust the flat stock to hold it up the PTZ. The flat stock is fine for the turret cameras.
Before I go any further let me mention that I also have a low pitch roof so access from he attic is impossible. The low pitch is also the reason my soffit is 22 inches deep. A LOT deeper than most soffits I've seen and definitely deeper than yours.
Since it is so deep my B52IR-Z12E cameras vibrate a little in windy conditions and even the 2" flat stock bends a little under the weight. I mounted the camera only 1 inch from the house so the weight is not in the middle of the flat stock either. I also have 2 x 2" flat stock per camera and I did use a junction box.
Anyway, I decided to mount the PTZ in a soffit above my garage doors but it is very low (only 7 feet from the ground). Since its so low I ended up buying the ceiling bracket that allows a flush mount. Here is the bracket:
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Hard to explain without a picture but hope that made sense.
I'm going to open the soffit (since there are no gutters there) and put some plywood for support for the bracket. Unfortunately it's been too cold now so had to hold off doing it until it warms up. Plus I need top open the wall in the garage to get the cable into the soffit.
I also mounted mine. Coincidentally the old camera was close to a joist. I managed to find the exact line where the joist was above the soffit and put some long screws. It is holding with 3 screws on the joist, in line, and another 2 on the soffit with no support. Here is a pic of the place before mounting. The three anchors are from the old camera, the joist was between the two right anchors.
Tha camera is huge and I could barely put it there, risking my life in the process. I don't even know an what basis they call this camera a -MINI- PTZ.
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