Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

Frankenscript

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The ironic thing is that I am an actual PhD in microbiology, and my farcical signature while fake-named is an actual PhD on the list.

Fun stuff. I'd love to see a name dump from that form and see all the fake funny names included in it :)

Oh, and hey @Sic gorgiamus allos subje I'm with you on supporting Taiwan. I've worked with lots of Taiwanese over the years and they are great folks. I give them a lot of credit for maintaining as much independence as they have been able to.
 

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Just came back from Whole Foods and I have to say I was flabbergasted by the long queue outside the store. We need to return to normalcy SOON in the safest way possible. :)
 

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Funny, except the last 5 seconds or so...

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We can't deny the fact that the President's voice has changed, listen carefully. It sounds like he has the cold, seriously.

 

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Okay, after listening to every angle of the covid for the last six months.
I have came to this conclusion ;

It is not China's fought.

It has nothing to do with the Democrats, even while they were trying to impeach the president.

The experts are always right, get it through your thick head. The experts can not ever be wrong.

You can riot and loot without masks and no social distance, so fuck waiting in line at the grocery store with a mask on. Loot it's free.

So the bottom line is, it is Trumps fought that covid is here. He has been hiding in the WH basement.

I am vandyman and I approve this message.
Trump 2020.
 

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With Google, Bookface, Twattter and the MSM all trying to hide and bury any dissent, it’s a pretty good bet they’re lying to you as usual.

The censorship going on right now about anything that doesn’t conform to the liberal globalist/socialist point of view is staggering.

 

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Good article. Here's my favorite part of it:

And whatever happened to Dr. Fauci saying that the goal was to "flatten the curve" so hospitals aren't overwhelmed? Not force businesses to close for longer than 6 months, destroying the livelihoods of millions, as we hope and pray for the FDA to expedite approval of a vaccine.
 

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Hey guys,

For the most part, businesses have reopened nationwide with a some state exceptions. Like, Jessie, you're in illinois, right? You're in "phase 4" and have been since July. Few things are shuttered in Illinois phase 4 though there are some density limitations, from the Illinois site:

Gatherings: All gatherings of 50 people or fewer are allowed with this limit subject to change based on latest data & guidance
Travel: Travel should follow IDPH and CDC approved guidance
Health care: All health care providers are open
Education and child care: P-12 schools, higher education, all summer programs, and child care open with IDPH approved safety guidance
Outdoor recreation: All outdoor recreation allowed
Businesses:
  • Manufacturing: All manufacturing open with IDPH approved safety guidance
  • “Non-essential” businesses: All employees return to work with IDPH approved safety guidance; Employers are encouraged to provide accommodations for COVID-19-vulnerable employees
  • Bars and restaurants: Open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Personal care services and health clubs: All barbershops, salons, spas and health and fitness clubs open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Entertainment: Cinema and theaters open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Retail: Open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
A few things remain closed, like most theaters probably haven't opened but that's due to people not feeling comfortable sitting next to a stranger for two hours in the middle of a pandemic... not due the the government. They've been allowed to open for 3 months... but they don't think they can make a go of yet yet, profitably.

The US did a very weak "flatten the curve" lockdown compared to more successful countries. Frankly it was spotty at best, and while we did keep the hospitals from overflowing (except in a few places like NY in March/April and TX/Florida in early summer), we didn't keep the replication factor of the virus below 1 for long... only during the strictest lockdown phases did we accomplish that. So, the minute we loosen the reigns, things heat up.

Case in point: here in Indiana, we opened up a bit over summer but there were still some restrictions on density, masks were required, etc... Cases went up but it was a younger crowd and with masks and such it was under control. Death rate hardly ticked up. Now, all of a sudden all the restrictions are gone and the mask mandate may expire in a week. We're already spiking cases and our 7-day average has been the highest ever for a week, climbing each day. Deaths are just starting to show an uptick but given how it takes a month to really start the chain reaction the worst of it won't hit until after the election, almost like someone planned that...

The first vaccine should have an adequate complement of safety data around Thanksgiving and I would be surprised if the first shots weren't going into arms in early December.
 

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Hey guys,

For the most part, businesses have reopened nationwide with a some state exceptions. Like, Jessie, you're in illinois, right? You're in "phase 4" and have been since July. Few things are shuttered in Illinois phase 4 though there are some density limitations, from the Illinois site:

Gatherings: All gatherings of 50 people or fewer are allowed with this limit subject to change based on latest data & guidance
Travel: Travel should follow IDPH and CDC approved guidance
Health care: All health care providers are open
Education and child care: P-12 schools, higher education, all summer programs, and child care open with IDPH approved safety guidance
Outdoor recreation: All outdoor recreation allowed
Businesses:
  • Manufacturing: All manufacturing open with IDPH approved safety guidance
  • “Non-essential” businesses: All employees return to work with IDPH approved safety guidance; Employers are encouraged to provide accommodations for COVID-19-vulnerable employees
  • Bars and restaurants: Open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Personal care services and health clubs: All barbershops, salons, spas and health and fitness clubs open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Entertainment: Cinema and theaters open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
  • Retail: Open with capacity limits and IDPH approved safety guidance
A few things remain closed, like most theaters probably haven't opened but that's due to people not feeling comfortable sitting next to a stranger for two hours in the middle of a pandemic... not due the the government. They've been allowed to open for 3 months... but they don't think they can make a go of yet yet, profitably.

The US did a very weak "flatten the curve" lockdown compared to more successful countries. Frankly it was spotty at best, and while we did keep the hospitals from overflowing (except in a few places like NY in March/April and TX/Florida in early summer), we didn't keep the replication factor of the virus below 1 for long... only during the strictest lockdown phases did we accomplish that. So, the minute we loosen the reigns, things heat up.

Case in point: here in Indiana, we opened up a bit over summer but there were still some restrictions on density, masks were required, etc... Cases went up but it was a younger crowd and with masks and such it was under control. Death rate hardly ticked up. Now, all of a sudden all the restrictions are gone and the mask mandate may expire in a week. We're already spiking cases and our 7-day average has been the highest ever for a week, climbing each day. Deaths are just starting to show an uptick but given how it takes a month to really start the chain reaction the worst of it won't hit until after the election, almost like someone planned that...

The first vaccine should have an adequate complement of safety data around Thanksgiving and I would be surprised if the first shots weren't going into arms in early December.
Yes, that all sounds good on paper, but try telling that to the tens of thousands that lost their businesses. Heres a list of restaurant closings in my nearest big city alone due to covid.


Or the numbers of people who have foreclosed on their homes or are about to.


Sure, restaurants and other businesses are open with "limited capacity". But restaurants and other businesses cannot stay afloat at limited capacity. How long could you continue to pay your mortgage or bills at 10 or 15 percent of your income?

I've been very fortunate to have not really been affected financially by this mess, but my heart breaks for all the millions of lives that are being needlessly uprooted. The effects will be seen and felt for a long time.

We did flatten the curve. I've seen all the graphs. Yet lockdowns remained. Talks of full lockdowns are brewing again. We were lied to. Plain and simple. There is no way around it.
 

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I hate to confuse any issues here of this scamdemic with actual facts, but... straight from the CDC...

2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
Products - Data Briefs - Number 328 - November 2018
2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
Products - Data Briefs - Number 355 - January 2020
2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
State and National Provisional Counts
2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 9/26): 2,130,000 (236,000/month)
 

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I hate to confuse any issues here of this scamdemic with actual facts, but... straight from the CDC...
Even though I agree that I agree about the scam part, I'm very suspicious of a wrong conclusion based on this CDC data. For anybody who wants to crunch the numbers themselves using the links provided, for the 2017 and 2018 years, scroll down to the summary for the totals. Using the 2019 link, you have to select the year, then add the monthly totals. Then it gets complicated. The link for the 2020 death count is a large data set that includes all of 2019 and the first 39 weeks of 2020 on a week by week basis. To get the 2020 numbers I downloaded the data set into a spreadsheet, sorted by year, then added up the total deaths. While the ~YTD 2020 monthly death count of 236,000 is correct on a number crunching basis, some of the input data is highly suspicious. One factor is that some of the states don't have any count recorded for week 38 and/or 39, pulling down the calculated average. They're generally lower population states so these omissions don't corrupt the average numbers significantly. The big issue is that the death counts for all of the states are suspiciously lower for the last few weeks of reporting. I'm thinking this is incomplete data that will be revised upward in the coming weeks. (Example: The weekly death count for the first 34 weeks is average 62,213. For week 39 it's 16,499) The data looks consistent to me for the first 34 weeks of the year.

Extrapolating the data from weeks 1 to 34 of year 2020, the totals are:

2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 8/22): 2,115,246 (269,589/month)
 
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