From experience what kind of distance would you expect out of the Nanostation M2? And do you need to pay for a monthly subscription with Ubiquity for those as well?
Point to Point Wireless Bridge Recomendations
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From experience what kind of distance would you expect out of the Nanostation M2? And do you need to pay for a monthly subscription with Ubiquity for those as well?
By stright I meant right from the switch into the device. Without a need for an adapter of any kind. Like how a camera can be plugged in directly from a POE switch...
With good LOS, low background noise and great alignment and setup? A mile or more.
There is no cloud, no subscription. You would own them, they're on your LAN.
So the answer to "...Isn't it similar to how a 802.3AF camera can work from a straight POE switch?"...is "Yes."
In particular, the device he mentioned can also, but not at the same time, be powered by a passive 24VDC POE injector which is not a 802.3af spec....
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Flintstone61
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Flintstone61
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Don't really appreciate the language, as there was no reason to get upset with me.
My experience with Ubiquiti's and Mikrotik:
Ubiquiti's "used" to be our goto point to point. Nothing fancy, they just worked and affordable.
Until we had to shoot over a marina. Ubiquiti's wouldn't cut it. Tried 5 or 6 models. We tried Mikrotik, 100% worked. We now use Mikrotik for everything. I believe the reason is higher Hz signal which big time matters when going over water. Another really neat thing is that the Mikrotik's do not rely on your router IP scheme since they use their own between the two devices. I have yet to progam one but previous bossman said it was sooooo much easier to config than Ubiquiti's just for this reason alone.
Glad you got the positive results you wanted / needed and I don't fault anyone for sticking with what works.
FWIW, Ubiquiti's do NOT care about any subnet used as long as they are static and on the same subnet as each other...no router needed. Perhaps someone didn't configure them properly...just sayin'. I've set up at least a dozen links in 10 years, never an issue.
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CQR-View
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FYI - Powering a wireless bridge Transciever from a the NVR Camera (PoE) Input Port is not recommended or possible. Most Transcievers are 24v Passive PoE which an NVR Camera Port does not provide.
If it is a single camera you are connecting via the Wireless Bridge, You can still connect the NVR end Transciever to the Camera Port but you will need the specified PoE Adapter recommended for the Transciever connected inbetween [Managed by the NVR NIC]
If multiple Cameras are connected to the Wireless Bridge may require you to connect the Bridge to the LAN & manually add the Cameras to the NVR Channel [Managed by the Network Router]
I know Hikvision NVR's will allow Multiple Cameras Connected through a Camera Input Port in this manner, and configured to the NVR Channels [NVR NIC], however i can not confirm the same with other manufacturer NVR's.
Hope this helps
ron351
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I have 2 large apartment complexes with 4K cameras on a wireless Ubiquity bridge. Distance is 825 feet for 1 place and 600 feet at the other. The receiving end I have a 8 port POE switch with uplink and the uplink goes another 200 feet to another POE 8 port switch and there are 11 4K cameras on the far end using this and works fine
While looking for outdoor POE switches I found some Chinese wireless bridges which do claim to be 802.3af/at PoE powered, so you could power them from any POE switch.
They aren't Ubiquiti or Mikrotik quality but might be good solution for short range use cases?
Any have experience with them?
Wi-Tek WI-CPE513P-KIT
EDIT: Could also use them as a POE pass through device, which would eliminate the need for a second POE adapter in single cam configurations:
Could be interesting if they work as advertised.
They aren't Ubiquiti or Mikrotik quality but might be good solution for short range use cases?
Any have experience with them?
Wi-Tek WI-CPE513P-KIT
EDIT: Could also use them as a POE pass through device, which would eliminate the need for a second POE adapter in single cam configurations:
Could be interesting if they work as advertised.
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TheWaterbug
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Whoa! Their latest diagram shows 802.3af/at switches powering both bridge units:
That POE pass-through feature could be gold.
Now I just need to find a U.S. retailer that carries them.
FWIW, the image in the previous post of June 2023 showed a "POE adapter" feeding the radio and passing through to feed an "IP Camera" so it was likely already 802.3af/at compliant back then and is the same "V3" version then and is still sold....where in the U.S. I have no idea, their web site has a contact form.
I just wish Ubiquiti and TP-LINK were more into providing 802.3af/at-compliant POE pass-thru's on their outdoor radios; they do pass-thru their passive 24VDC on some Nanostations and the NanoStation AC (NS-5AC) can use 802.3af/at POE but offers no pass-thru.
I cannot offer any insight, good or bad, regarding the Wi-Tek radios as I've installed a dozen Ubiquiti bridges and 2 TP-LINK bridges.
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TheWaterbug
Getting comfortable
Actually the PDF you linked shows this!FWIW, the image in the previous post of June 2023 showed a "POE adapter" feeding the radio and passing through to feed an "IP Camera" so it was likely already 802.3af/at compliant back then and is the same "V3" version then and is still sold....where in the U.S. I have no idea, their web site has a contact form.
I just wish Ubiquiti and TP-LINK were more into providing 802.3af/at-compliant POE pass-thru's on their outdoor radios; they do pass-thru their passive 24VDC on some Nanostations and the NanoStation AC (NS-5AC) can use 802.3af/at POE but offers no pass-thru.
I cannot offer any insight, good or bad, regarding the Wi-Tek radios as I've installed a dozen Ubiquiti bridges and 2 TP-LINK bridges.
Are NS-5AC and NS-5AC-US the same, except for frequencies used? The Q&A and reviews for the NS-5AC-US on amazon are all over the place wrt to POE. Some say passive only; other say 802.3xx.
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TheWaterbug
Getting comfortable
And the documentation is silent both on what type of POE comes out the passthrough port, and what the maximum passthrough power is. One guy on the Ubiquiti forums says:
CaptainCrunch
Getting comfortable
A number of these point to point connections have a pretty good range with LOS. What about short distances (probably under 50ft) with no LOS? I need to extend a network from the front of a house to the back of the house. Running a cable through the attic is not an option. The only other feasible option is to go out to the side of the house and run the cable down the side of the house then along the back of the house to the back porch area and hook it up to a poe switch. I'm trying to avoid the last option.
When I test a configured Ubiquiti bridge for a client, I have the AP unit in my bench area and take the Station (client) unit to the kitchen. This is about 45 ft. away and around 2 corners and 1 closed door. The units connect immediately and I see no speed degradation, only 1 bar weaker and I have made no changes to the power output. However, if the signal is too strong due to the short distance and LOS is adequate or only partially obstructed, the power output can be turned down to actually improve speed and throughput. The AirOS has great built-in tools that allow you to optimize the radios' settings and make those necessary adjustments.
TL;DR: Go for it.
