The 6700k is a bit beefier but not worth the extra cost...though if you want to wait there are new kaby lake desktop processors coming...
Yes. The cube will not have strong enough IR for outdoors...unless you plan on adding some or light...the varifocal is nice as well. The low light performance will be MUCH better with the starlight...
I will probably never have that many, BUT, that is the way I like to build things out, over engineered and over powered JUST IN CASE I decide to go nuts and keep putting more cameras up all over the place. For instance, maybe somehow having a couple cameras that could capture license plate pictures of all of the cars that drive by the house during the day, don't need LPR, but if something went down I could look around that time code and maybe get a plate of a perp. Who knows. So I figured if I build a system that can handle 20, maybe 25 cams I should be covered for a good long while, or until really high mp cameras become cheap enough. If a $500 computer would handle that with some HD upgrades I'm good with that. I'm gonna look into the dahua's and look at more computers. I agree with you, I stopped building computers many years ago, it's not worth it unless you have a specific set of requirements but you can definitely buy them cheaper than you can build them. It looks like as long as I have a beefy cpu and nice onboard video for hardware acceleration I should be good to go, and plenty of hd space of course. Even SSD's are getting down there in price but probably not enough for video surveillance.Yes. The cube will not have strong enough IR for outdoors...unless you plan on adding some or light...the varifocal is nice as well. The low light performance will be MUCH better with the starlight...
25 cams for the house seems like total overkill though...
Honestly, I would buy an i5/i7 skylake and dont overbuild...you can likely do more than fine with a 300 i5-6500...by the time you add more cams or the high res cams get decent night vision at a reasonable price there will be newer, faster more efficient processors...
You mean night vision like IR light with filter, or like legit night vision cameras because I think those run a couple grand each right now lol.
with ir or some supplemental lighting...the starlight is extremely good in color mode even with a bit of light...its MUCH MUCH better than standard 3mp cameras.
Yeah I finally looked through the entire thread, very much nicer looking picture than the 4mp, though he never compared it to say, a 3mp hikvision lol.
It's much better than the 3mp...The 4mp was actually better in low light than the 3...It's not even close....The difference is dramatic..
So you don't even think the 4mp hikvisions are as good as the 2mp starlight dahua's?
Its not even close..the dahua is a much much better camera in low light and at night...the starlights are in a completely different league.
What about during the day though. I was looking around earlier at the prices on 4mp hikvisions they've come down a lot on the varifocal models. Is it worth taking the hit in resolution in normal lighting to get the awesome night time lighting? Has anyone reviews 3 or 4 mp starlight dahuas? That would seem to be best of all worlds.
The difference is negligible...4mp is not double the pixles per inch as 2mp...hikvision does not have a turret varifocal and most are not motorized, which is a huge pain to install. Dont mess with domes or bullets...you will have spider web and ir reflection issues.What about during the day though. I was looking around earlier at the prices on 4mp hikvisions they've come down a lot on the varifocal models. Is it worth taking the hit in resolution in normal lighting to get the awesome night time lighting? Has anyone reviews 3 or 4 mp starlight dahuas? That would seem to be best of all worlds.
Makes sense to me, I am not beholden to any brand or number. I happen to have 3 bullets but 2 of them are varifocal because I really hate the idea of fixed lenses, problem was when I bought them varifocal was expensive af. I've experienced the spider problem with bullets outdoors, haha. I had scheduled a camera maintenance once a month to take care of it, I'm really liking the idea of the turret cameras, I wish the dahua had a hookup for motion sensor, that is the ONLY think it seems to be missing. I'm gonna buy one to play with when the price changes to 170 like the Andy guy said I think. Better make sure my allieexpress account is still good, I've only bought one thing from there a long time ago.
I believe I read that there is a 12.5 percent power consumption reduction...not really that big considering it amounts to 3-5w but something...There is no real need to wait for Kaby Lake CPUs (i7-7700K etc) as they are basically the same as Skylake, only slightly higher clock speeds out of the box. i7-6700 will be plenty for 25 cameras in Blue Iris as long as you use hardware acceleration and direct to disk recording. Dual socket servers are also unnecessary, because they cost way more and you lose hardware acceleration so the capabilities aren't actually much better -- maybe even worse -- and certainly less energy efficient.
If you have a lot of lighting then starlight cameras aren't actually that much better than others. I have a lot of cameras on my house so the IR from all of them gets combined along with the powerful illuminator I have, and my starlights don't do much better than the older cams as a result. Starlight should do much better when it is the only camera looking at an area
)of buying, installing and running extra illuminators...
Thats right! I could not stand to live in a cookie cutter house in an HOA neighborhood where everything needs to meet someone else's cosmetic standards.Also consider the cost and eyesore (though that is obviously not a concern for you
A Varifocal Starlight Bullet is going to become available shortly, it supports external Alarm Input so if you want to hook a physical motion sensor directly up to it you can.. performance will be identical to the Varifocal Turret. IPC-HFW5231E-Z | Dahua Technology
Yeah so I was not planning to wait I was going to get the HP fender man suggested and throw an SSD in it and a WD people or two. I'll have to see if your camera's are in your profile I'm curious what else you run. I don't have any stand alone IR illuminators but that may be a consideration in the future. I'm mostly interested in varifocal cameras though because I really hate the idea of not being able to tweak the focal length at that's one thing that really appeals to me about the dahuas, do you run any other comparable verafocal cameras? I've currently got two hikvision bullets and one 4mm, and a 2.8mm cube but I don't like the 2.8 FL even inside, it's decent, the pair is awesome though, I want to use PIR for all motion detection.There is no real need to wait for Kaby Lake CPUs (i7-7700K etc) as they are basically the same as Skylake, only slightly higher clock speeds out of the box. i7-6700 will be plenty for 25 cameras in Blue Iris as long as you use hardware acceleration and direct to disk recording. Dual socket servers are also unnecessary, because they cost way more and you lose hardware acceleration so the capabilities aren't actually much better -- maybe even worse -- and certainly less energy efficient.
If you have a lot of lighting then starlight cameras aren't actually that much better than others. I have a lot of cameras on my house so the IR from all of them gets combined along with the powerful illuminator I have, and my starlights don't do much better than the older cams as a result. Starlight should do much better when it is the only camera looking at an area
I may wait for those bullets then, I'm really hooked on PIR after experiencing the hell that is software motion detection and then a camera with PIR, do you have any idea what the price will be for the bullets? Hopefully not much more, maybe that's a question for Andy on price and availability. I should be ordering the HP desktop soon.