Everything I can find is black and most of it is gel-filled for direct burial. I won't be burying it, but I'll need UV resistance and a white jacket. Black would look ugly as hell and I don't want to paint it.
I have not used this and cannot comment on its performance but here's one that meets your specs. It' s boxed, I think a reel would be less likely to get twisted than a boxed version ('UN-reel"):Everything I can find is black and most of it is gel-filled for direct burial. I won't be burying it, but I'll need UV resistance and a white jacket. Black would look ugly as hell and I don't want to paint it.
Everything I can find is black and most of it is gel-filled for direct burial. I won't be burying it, but I'll need UV resistance and a white jacket. Black would look ugly as hell and I don't want to paint it.
Why do you not want to run it in conduit ?
I have not used this and cannot comment on its performance but here's one that meets your specs. It' s boxed, I think a reel would be less likely to get twisted than a boxed version ('UN-reel"):
Solid copper, Cat-5e, CMX jacket, outdoor, UV-rated
Much better choice....
1000FT Cat6 Bulk Bare Copper Ethernet Network Cable UTP, Solid, Riser Rated (CMR), 500MHz, 23AWG, Blue - Monoprice.com
I use MonoPrice cables daily.. fantastic quality and value.
I already have the white version of that cable. Good stuff, but not outdoor rated.
do you really need this to be outdoor rated? .......Should be in a box, or conduit as it leaves the attic area, underground, etc.
Cable in underground conduit MUST be outdoor-rated and suitable for direct burial, as considerable moisture WILL find it's way into the conduit eventually. It does not, however, need to be gel-filled. A HDPE (high density polyethylene) jacket is sufficient.
My apologies @TonyR....
When I said underground i was in reference to the "California Basement" under the house. Usually a small crawl space, where this wire can be tacked up without conduit under the studs. Defiantly not under the earth, as in buried without conduit or the proper "burial" cable rating.
I agree that there will be water in the conduit, but how does that make its way into an undamaged cable jacket? Most CMR cable has a PVC jacket. I'm certainly no chemist, but I believe that PVC is totally waterproof.Cable in underground conduit MUST be outdoor-rated and suitable for direct burial, as considerable moisture WILL find it's way into the conduit eventually. It does not, however, need to be gel-filled. A HDPE (high density polyethylene) jacket is sufficient.
I agree that there will be water in the conduit, but how does that make its way into an undamaged cable jacket? Most CMR cable has a PVC jacket. I'm certainly no chemist, but I believe that PVC is totally waterproof.
I take actual experience more seriously than what spec sheets or instruction books say. I combed through the Belden spec sheets and they don't directly address water and moisture resistance. They do address oil and uv resistance. The CMR jackets for instance are oil resistant and the CMP jackets aren't. The Belden outdoor cable isn't rated for direct burial unless it's gel filled. I compared the jackets of come cat6 CMR and outdoor cable I have and they're exactly the same thickness. The only visible difference is that the outdoor cable has a very thin clear plastic layer under the jacket. "Outdoor" cable is generally moisture and uv resistant, and approved for aerial runs. In buried conduit, 2 of these 3 factors don't exist. I just wish the manufacturers would address buried conduit directly.I'm no chemist either but I rely on 31 years of having to replace on numerous occasions damaged indoor cable with thin PVC jackets in underground conduits.
I guess you missed the first line in my post #15, I also rely on experience, the specs was for your benefit.I take actual experience more seriously than what spec sheets or instruction books say.
I just wish the manufacturers would address buried conduit directly.
I'm at a loss where the disagreement is. The only things I've asserted in this thread are:Let's agree to disagree
I'm at a loss where the disagreement is. And I was dumb enough to ask how moisture got into cable with a waterproof jacket. Lesson learned.