They just tried to assassinate Trump

David L said:
The Feds screwed up by not covering the area needed to secure the area of a common AR-15 rifle. Blaming the Local police is ridiculous when they were not in charge. The LE was suppose to originally monitor traffic, plus supposedly there was also limited communication between the LE and SS, which is another major screwup by the Feds. If you don't have the means to secure a Major Presidential event then the event should not of happened. Someone gave the go ahead, the Feds...

AOC asked the right question...
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Where was it said the local police was only supposed to monitor traffic? The Feds and the locals always use separate radio channels. That's normal. And you do not want everyone on the same channel for large events. That creates too much traffic and makes it more difficult for any transmission to get through.
 
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Agree and thats why they had/you have a Command post to coordinate comms
 
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bigredfish said:
Agree and thats why they had/you have a Command post to coordinate comms
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Yes. That unfortunately can delay information getting from one zone to another zone. For local and state who have a network set up, it's easy for all of the traffic to be recorded. I do not know if the SS has a mobile network or if the try to piggyback on existing networks. Because they can't always rely on what's going to be where they are going, I would lean toward their having their own portable network. I would think (hope) they don't rely on direct radio to radio links. Theoretically, there may be recorded audio of who said what to who to know what traffic got sent between zones and when the traffic got sent.
 
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Below is the C-Span link to the PSP Colonel testifying to congress. There are three parts:

www.c-span.org

Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Testifies on Assassination Attempt on Former President Trump, Part 1

Colonel Christopher Paris, commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police, and Patrick Yoes, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, testified on the attempted assassination of former President Trump at a campaign rally in Butler before the House Homeland Security Committee. In their opening...
www.c-span.org www.c-span.org
 
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I hope the digging doesn't end with the former director's resignation..it goes A LOT deeper and higher than her, I think it's safe to say....she was a sacrificial lamb, they're hoping that will appease Trump's fans.

Sorry to burst their bubble if that's their plan; unlike the Dems we're not sheeple. :headbang:
 
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CaptainCrunch said:
Where was it said the local police was only supposed to monitor traffic? The Feds and the locals always use separate radio channels. That's normal. And you do not want everyone on the same channel for large events. That creates too much traffic and makes it more difficult for any transmission to get through.
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Yes separate radio channels but I guess you did not watch the video...No Local Police was in the SS Command Center to communicate, SS did not allow that...


Local Police were surprised they were not going to monitor traffic...


I think if you wach this video, more will come to light.
 
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bigredfish said:
Agree and thats why they had/you have a Command post to coordinate comms
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SS refused to allow Local Police in their Command Center
 
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While not "uber local", PA State Police had two commanders in the SS command center according to testimony from PSP Colonel. I did not hear if the local ESU swat team or other Butler locals had any representation in that command center.
 
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David L said:
Yes separate radio channels but I guess you did not watch the video...No Local Police was in the SS Command Center to communicate, SS did not allow that...


Local Police were surprised they were not going to monitor traffic...


I think if you wach this video, more will come to light.
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No, I have not watched every video that has come out. There are simply too many for that to happen. I will look at those. It would surprise me if local wasn't allowed in coms center. State police testified they had someone in the coms center. But state and local are on different channels as well.
 
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OICU2 said:
Just found this video: shows police with guns drawn surrounding the building around the 2:46 mark.

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The audio from that is interesting. The shots start just after 4:50 in the video.
Shot
Shot
Shot
Pause
Shot shot shot shot shot
Shot (suppressed?)
Pause
Shot (suppressed?)

The first 8 shots sound about the same. I would guess they all came from the same weapon. That's consistent with what the FBI reported. The last two may have come from different weapons? They are a few seconds between them so it's tough to tell just from the video. But they both sound suppressed based on the tone.
 
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CaptainCrunch said:
No, I have not watched every video that has come out. There are simply too many for that to happen. I will look at those. It would surprise me if local wasn't allowed in coms center. State police testified they had someone in the coms center. But state and local are on different channels as well.
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We are all still piecing together the puzzle. There are so many videos out there, but whether we are told the truth by our Gov't, I have many doubts there, roof is sloped too much, or we come to our own investigative truth, one thing is for sure, Trump was not given adequate security for the outdoor event. Now was that partly his fault having more risk with outdoor events? Maybe, or maybe not...
 
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CaptainCrunch said:
The audio from that is interesting. The shots start just after 4:50 in the video.
Shot
Shot
Shot
Pause
Shot shot shot shot shot
Shot (suppressed?)
Pause
Shot (suppressed?)

The first 8 shots sound about the same. I would guess they all came from the same weapon. That's consistent with what the FBI reported. The last two may have come from different weapons? They are a few seconds between them so it's tough to tell just from the video. But they both sound suppressed based on the tone.
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That was a good video...I heard the same, of course it was right next to the building the Shooter was on...

That Suppressed? The shot after the 5 burst shots was awful close to the burst shots. Wonder where that came from. The last suppressed shot assuming the sniper shot.
 
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David L said:
We are all still piecing together the puzzle. There are so many videos out there, but whether we are told the truth by our Gov't, I have many doubts there, roof is sloped too much, or we come to our own investigative truth, one thing is for sure, Trump was not given adequate security for the outdoor event. Now was that partly his fault having more risk with outdoor events? Maybe, or maybe not...
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Remember the former USSS director never went to the site. All the info she got was from other people. The roof is sloped too much may be something someone just gave her to cover their butt and she ran with it. I agree, we don't know everything yet but there was not adequate security. Even though the initial plans called for locals to secure that area, that rooftop should never have been designated for local security. The USSS should have had another sniper teal on that roof, or a spotter at minimum, to get a different/better view of the back of the event area.
 
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