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Hi @Lyudmila
One case and point: Nazino Island aka Cannibal Island .. ( ref see below ) - This was Russians / Soviets incident on their fellow Russians / Soviets ..
OK, let's point out the following:
Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Laos, Vietnam...
1) Iraq - many of us in the USA were against this one ..
2) Libya - Oil issue .. World Order issue .. Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi wanted to challenge the post WWII trade order established to increase global trade and reduce global conflict. In exchange for the USA enforcing the rules of trade ( the costs ) the USA gets to play the US Dollar is the reserve currency. This allowed the world devastated by war to recover as it gave them the US as a market to sell their goods. This actually helped many countries do much better by entering the global trade system. Unfortunately, this also means those challenging the trade system need to be addressed. Gaddafi did so when he wanted to sell Oil for Gold.
Note, a lot of us have issues with the concept of the USA being the worlds policeman .. of course there is a benefit as well as a price to pay for that role.
The question is.. who would you want to be acting as the world policeman? The USA is probably one of the better options.
3) Syria .. this conflict has a lot to do with Russian attacks of their neighbors and the attempt to control oil / natural gas pipelines, as well as the Iranian natural gas pipeline proposal.
So there is a lot more going on here, as many do not want Iran with nukes, and Russia does not want Europe to buy natural gas or oil from anyone else.
4) Afghanistan .. Taliban protect Bin-laden .. this war was imho a good reason to get into .. not happy with the corruption associated with it. But 9/11 attacks were key to this one .. even Russia supported this one.
5) Laos and Vietnam .. all about the Soviet-China vs the Western World conflict.
Probably would not have happened if Soviet Union and China did not support Communists.
I am not happy with how it turned out.
6) American Indians ..
Many in the USA are not happy about much of this ... even when it was happening, many not happy with it.
ref:
Nazino tragedy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tomsk Oblast with Nazino labelled
The Nazino tragedy (Russian: Назинская трагедия, romanized: Nazinskaya tragediya) was the mass deportation of about 6,700 prisoners[1] to Nazino Island in the Soviet Union in May 1933. The deportees were forcibly sent to the small, isolated island in Western Siberia, located 540 kilometers (340 mi) northwest of Tomsk, Russian SFSR, to construct a "special settlement" and to cultivate the island.[2] They were abandoned with only flour as food, most of which was used during the journey, little to no tools, and virtually without any clothing, or shelter necessary for the harsh Siberian climate.[2][3][4] Those who attempted to leave were killed by armed guards.[3][4] The conditions of the island deteriorated quickly and resulted in widespread disease, abuse of power, violence, and cannibalism. Within thirteen weeks, over 4,000 of the deportees sent to Nazino Island had died or disappeared, and the majority of the survivors were in ill health.[5][6]
The Nazino tragedy was virtually unknown until 1988 (more than five decades after the incidents), when an investigation by Memorial began during the glasnost reforms in the Soviet Union. The events were popularized in 2002 when reports of a September 1933 special commission by the Communist Party of Western Siberia were published by Memorial.[7][8]
The original report on the incident was made by Vasily A. Velichko, a Soviet propaganda worker, and remained classified up until 1988.[9][1] The report was originally passed to Joseph Stalin and to other members of the Politb
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. We fight over BS that the news told us to. If one needs the names of the
