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bigredfish said:
They weren’t ok before they were…

NATO 'OK' With Cluster Bombs After Biden Approves For Ukraine: Stoltenberg

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lol .. imho .. should have given Ukraine Cluster Bombs Feb 2022 .. war could have been over .. Russian column 40 km long to Kiev .. just waiting to be awarded Hero of Russian Federation to all in those columns .. instead we got Bucha and numerous other massacres

of course, better .. to have stood up and stopped this fubar war in the first place ..
 
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mat200 said:
lol .. imho .. should have given Ukraine Cluster Bombs Feb 2022 .. war could have been over .. Russian column 40 km long to Kiev .. just waiting to be awarded Hero of Russian Federation to all in those columns .. instead we got Bucha and numerous other massacres

of course, better .. to have stood up and stopped this fubar war in the first place ..
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The point is the hypocrisy of the US and NATO who up until last week were condemning Russia for using … cluster bombs.
 
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rolibr24 said:
And by “stood up” we should have done absolutely nothing and let both of those countries sort it out amongst themselves.


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We should have done that in 1991 ... instead we ( USA, UK, Russia ) promised Ukraine support if they gave up their nukes ( see Lisbon Protocol )
 
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bigredfish said:
The point is the hypocrisy of the US and NATO who up until last week were condemning Russia for using … cluster bombs.
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Hypocrisy .. the world is full of this .. still should we ask Ukraine not to respond in Kind to Russia ??
 
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UH OH! Karine-Jean Pierre's coke bag alibi for the Bidens collides with press pool report (yes, Bidens were at White House Friday)

During Friday's White House briefing, Biden press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was asked if the cocaine found in the White House last weekend belonged to any member of the Biden family.

Jean-Pierre didn't say "no," but did provide this attempted alibi:

"The Biden family was not here. They were not here. They were at Camp David. They were not here Friday. They were not here Saturday. They were not here Sunday. They were not even here Monday. They came back on Tuesday.

So to ask that question is incredibly irresponsible."

Here's how that unfolded:

KJP says that "irresponsible reporting" is alleging that the cocaine found in the White House might have belonged to the Biden family.

She then goes on to call a journalist in the briefing room "irresponsible" for asking the White House to unequivocally say that the drugs do not… pic.twitter.com/jDesTsGfx3

UH OH! Karine Jean-Pierre's coke bag alibi for the Bidens collides with press pool report – Twitchy
 
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Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, February 28, 2022 (cluster bombs are a war crime)

Q Thanks, Jen. There are reports of illegal cluster bombs and vacuum bombs being used by the Russians. If that’s true, what is the next step of this administration? And is there a red line for how much violence will be tolerated against civilians in this manner that’s illegal and potentially a war crime?

MS. PSAKI: It is — it would be. I don’t have any confirmation of that. We have seen the reports. If that were true, it would potentially be a war crime.

Obviously, there are a range of international fora that would assess that. So, certainly, we would look to that to be a part of that conversation.

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, February 28, 2022 | The White House
 
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Parley said:
UH OH! Karine-Jean Pierre's coke bag alibi for the Bidens collides with press pool report (yes, Bidens were at White House Friday)

During Friday's White House briefing, Biden press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was asked if the cocaine found in the White House last weekend belonged to any member of the Biden family.

Jean-Pierre didn't say "no," but did provide this attempted alibi:

"The Biden family was not here. They were not here. They were at Camp David. They were not here Friday. They were not here Saturday. They were not here Sunday. They were not even here Monday. They came back on Tuesday.

So to ask that question is incredibly irresponsible."

Here's how that unfolded:

KJP says that "irresponsible reporting" is alleging that the cocaine found in the White House might have belonged to the Biden family.

She then goes on to call a journalist in the briefing room "irresponsible" for asking the White House to unequivocally say that the drugs do not… pic.twitter.com/jDesTsGfx3

UH OH! Karine Jean-Pierre's coke bag alibi for the Bidens collides with press pool report – Twitchy
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( posting this here since cluster munitions is trending in the election thread .. )

actually a very good discussion on the cluster munitions by Ryan McBeth

He brings up the topic of Ukraine opening up the DPICM and using the individual bomblets for Drones .. which I had not even thought out, seems like a good use case ..

The Truth about Cluster Munitions and DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions)
Ryan McBeth


update;
Here's a short version ..

 
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F*****G amateurs are going to get us in a war! If they don't respect/fear us, its only a matter of when. Idiots.

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rolibr24 said:
And by “stood up” we should have done absolutely nothing and let both of those countries sort it out amongst themselves.


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After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 thousands of nuclear weapons were left in Ukraine. Ukraine decided to give up those weapons for a guarantee of security from the US, UK and Russia in an agreement called the Budapest Memorandum. We were bound to support them after Russia invaded. In fact we should have done much more. IF nothing had been done Russia would have most probably have continued on to other countries like Poland. Putin's goal is to restore Russia to its previous Imperial boundaries under the Czars. As it turns out Russia's military has been shown to be weak and ineffective
 
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