Where are the Huisun 10x ptz's on Ali?

[hmjgriffon]

I'll simply say that if people buy them and they are happy with them, then whatever, but I do not feel there should be any political correctness. If these cams have a known high failure rate and crappy quality then people should know. If you know that information and still like them have at it, more of the good cams for me when they come in stock. Perhaps if you own 4-6 of them and one dies every year or so it's worth it because of the money you save. I know people who have shitty analog cams from costco and they are perfectly happy. I try to show them my cams and they have no interest because they are cheap. That's fine, some of us are more discerning and willing to pay for quality.

 

[fenderman]

The IR on these cams don't attract spiders which is a daily problem with my Hikvision and Dahua cams here. No spiders is worth the price alone.

The spiders web view is avoided because of the separate IR from the lens...same as any turret or bullet with that design..
These cameras are rubbish though...as many have already seen..

 

[IPCCTVH.265]

I purchased the HUISUN camera is also looking for YUNCH JACK to solve the problem.
Their products are the same.

YUNCH camera crashed at first. Because the temperature is too high and inside POE. It improved a lot and solved the issue. Now it is outside POE.

I bought many MINI PTZ from Jack's store.Some had issue. He send PCB to me for free and upgrade software. The issue was solved. Now the MINI PTZ operate very well for more than one year. I do fell YUNCH service is excellent.

I hope my suggestion is helpful.

 

[vasycara]

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I purchased the HUISUN camera is also looking for YUNCH JACK to solve the problem.
Their products are the same.

YUNCH camera crashed at first. Because the temperature is too high and inside POE. It improved a lot and solved the issue. Now it is outside POE.

I bought many MINI PTZ from Jack's store.Some had issue. He send PCB to me for free and upgrade software. The issue was solved. Now the MINI PTZ operate very well for more than one year. I do fell YUNCH service is excellent.

I hope my suggestion is helpful.

pcb attached to you is not the same pcb from .V2 YC-110AR
look different

 

[NVR]

In hindsight what would you have recommended as an alternative two years ago (older model) when everyone was purchasing this cam? And what are you recommending today?
I have 5 installed without issues and ready to install more but would like to hear of other options.

 

[nayr]

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[fenderman]

In hindsight what would you have recommended as an alternative two years ago (older model) when everyone was purchasing this cam? And what are you recommending today?
I have 5 installed without issues and ready to install more but would like to hear of other options.

to spend more money on something KNOWN to be reliable...many users lost 2+ cams....a security camera must be reliable...a non working camera is useless and Muphy's law dictates that it will go down just before an event.

 

[hmjgriffon]

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He's gonna need to more than double his budget per camera to get one of those lol.

 

[NVR]

That dome was not out two years ago when everyone was purchasing these Huisuns, at the time anything close to specs to the Huisun was $700 and up. Furthermore it is a Dauhua and will lose motion detection triggers/feature when using a Hikvision NVR. I also would prefer a mini bullet over a larger dome hanging on my house, not care so much for a business. My cams are not watching over the NY Diamond district and can afford some downtime if it does fail and in return save $3k ( savings at the time of purchase), so far they have been great performers for 1.5 years, and on par with others testimonies. I had a Hik turret and a Dahua analog fail on me in the past and these had no moving parts as the Huisun does. I have my Huisun set to record only on motion ( Pink dashes on image below) , making it much easier to watch playback of plates without LPR software, along with saving on HDD space. Something the above Dahua Dome cannot do. So far I don't see anything close to the Huisun, price, size or functionality when using it with a Hik NVR. I would definitely want to see Huisun improve on their quality control if there are issues rather then trying to bash and shut them down as they did help many with their innovative camera. Finally I recall people flashing their cams with wrong firmware due to hardware changes and would be unfair to claim these as failures. I will be getting 2-4 more this spring unless something else pops up thats equivalent to the Huisun, in price, size and compatibility with the HIkvision protocol.

 

[hmjgriffon]

That dome was not out two years ago when everyone was purchasing these Huisuns, at the time anything close to specs to the Huisun was $700 and up. Furthermore it is a Dauhua and will lose motion detection triggers/feature when using a Hikvision NVR. I also would prefer a mini bullet over a larger dome hanging on my house, not care so much for a business. My cams are not watching over the NY Diamond district and can afford some downtime if it does fail and in return save $3k ( savings at the time of purchase), so far they have been great performers for 1.5 years, and on par with others testimonies. I had a Hik turret and a Dahua analog fail on me in the past and these had no moving parts as the Huisun does. I have my Huisun set to record only on motion ( Pink dashes on image below) , making it much easier to watch playback of plates without LPR software, along with saving on HDD space. Something the above Dahua Dome cannot do. So far I don't see anything close to the Huisun, price, size or functionality when using it with a Hik NVR. I would definitely want to see Huisun improve on their quality control if there are issues rather then trying to bash and shut them down as they did help many with their innovative camera. Finally I recall people flashing their cams with wrong firmware due to hardware changes and would be unfair to claim these as failures. I will be getting 2-4 more this spring unless something else pops up thats equivalent to the Huisun, in price, size and compatibility with the HIkvision protocol.

First of all, I respect you sir for sticking to your guns, they work fine for you, and we do not know what other defenses you have in place, large attack dogs for instance. I'd be curious to see some daytime pictures from one of these if you don't mind?

 

[nayr]

Dahua basic motion detection should work with a Hikvision NVR via ONVIF just like the Huisun, and you've been able to get a 2MP Dahua Black Face PTZ for about $400 and up 2 years ago if you looked hard enough.

The 'Hikvision Protocoll' thing of the Huisuns was a misnomer, they just used the same paths so they worked with BlueIris as a Hik RTSP path.. everything else was ONVIF bro

to make a PTZ as quality as the black face, but the size of the Huisun.. would result in a cost 2x the price of the black face.. thats how shit works.

andy said something like out of the 10k dahua's he sold last year he had 10 come back for warranty RMA, were talking about a tiny fraction of a % failure rate.. these Huisuns are well into double digit failure rates and that is entirely unacceptable.

 

[NVR]

Huisun v1 daytime.

 

[hmjgriffon]

Dahua basic motion detection should work with a Hikvision NVR via ONVIF just like the Huisun, and you've been able to get a 2MP Dahua Black Face PTZ for about $400 and up 2 years ago if you looked hard enough.

The 'Hikvision Protocoll' thing of the Huisuns was a misnomer, they just used the same paths so they worked with BlueIris as a Hik RTSP path.. everything else was ONVIF bro

to make a PTZ as quality as the black face, but the size of the Huisun.. would result in a cost 2x the price of the black face.. thats how shit works.

andy said something like out of the 10k dahua's he sold last year he had 10 come back for warranty RMA, were talking about a tiny fraction of a % failure rate.. these Huisuns are well into double digit failure rates and that is entirely unacceptable.

I wonder how many didn't come back for RMA due to shipping cost lol.

 

[hmjgriffon]

Huisun v1 daytime.

Neat little area you live in.

 

[nayr]

if it was a PTZ im sure the shipping cost back was still worthwhile.. if it was a cheap china model camera, proabibly not getting sent back.

 

[hmjgriffon]

if it was a PTZ im sure the shipping cost back was still worthwhile.. if it was a cheap china model camera, proabibly not getting sent back.

I just hope that my ptz lasts long enough that it's not worth sending back when it finally goes lol of course I hope it gets obsolete instead of dying

 

[nayr]

my black face PTZ is about to hit 3 years; I paid extra from a US Vendor for Warranty/Service.. never used it, shoulda saved my money.. still going strong and im sure I could get many more years out of it if I had too.

I know of installers who started replacing Axis PTZ with Dahua Black PTZ's by the truck full and the failure rates dropped noticably while saving them money up front.. seems if you spend too much money they fail, if you spend too little money they fail.. making a good PTZ that can last the long haul is hard, anything that has moving parts will fail sooner or later, its just a matter of time and friction.. its not like these things are put in friendly environments.

 

[NVR]

Dahua basic motion detection should work with a Hikvision NVR via ONVIF just like the Huisun, and you've been able to get a 2MP Dahua Black Face PTZ for about $400 and up 2 years ago if you looked hard enough.

The 'Hikvision Protocoll' thing of the Huisuns was a misnomer, they just used the same paths so they worked with BlueIris as a Hik RTSP path.. everything else was ONVIF bro

to make a PTZ as quality as the black face, but the size of the Huisun.. would result in a cost 2x the price of the black face.. thats how shit works.

andy said something like out of the 10k dahua's he sold last year he had 10 come back for warranty RMA, were talking about a tiny fraction of a % failure rate.. these Huisuns are well into double digit failure rates and that is entirely unacceptable.

The Dome is not to be compared with a bullet as its 3x as large, plus many preferred the bullet over domes, but if your aware of a decently priced bullet PTZ please share. I have tested several Dahua turrets using Onvif with the Hik NVR and motion triggers would not work. The Huisun used Hikvision firmware which what made it that much more appealing to many. Whats the most cost effective reliable bullet PTZ you can recommend?

 

[nayr]

I hear unicorns make nice cameras; but otherwise.. what you want does not exist.

ps: they do NOT run hikvision firmware; they stole the look and feel of Hikvision but its definitely not hikvision firmware.

 

[hmjgriffon]

my black face PTZ is about to hit 3 years; I paid extra from a US Vendor for Warranty/Service.. never used it, shoulda saved my money.. still going strong and im sure I could get many more years out of it if I had too.

I know of installers who started replacing Axis PTZ with Dahua Black PTZ's by the truck full and the failure rates dropped noticably while saving them money up front.. seems if you spend too much money they fail, if you spend too little money they fail.. making a good PTZ that can last the long haul is hard, anything that has moving parts will fail sooner or later, its just a matter of time and friction.. its not like these things are put in friendly environments.

Yup, outdoor cameras that move? It's not if, it's when lol you just have to be willing to except that fact. And the more you use em the sooner it's gonna be.