Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

Arjun

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Every news outlet is essentially promoting propaganda; especially when NBC News White House Correspondent, Peter Alexander asked President Trump, "Should the public be scared?" These media companies get what they deserve.


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F this Chinese news organization propaganda with the fake glasses and lipstick and advise to the World. Oh, such heros where those helpless people(the worker bees) who were welded shut into their high rise buildings.
 

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There has been lots of propaganda to go around. Anyone remember "It's just a flu"... But wait there's more:

And cut off on the bottom was "March 9: This blindsided the world."

So yes, lots of propaganda out there...Screenshot_20200326-094957.jpg

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I just hope that the virus's genome (especially the glycoprotein complex studded, projected outward) is being remapped on a continuous basis. The fact that this virus is still new and is now affecting across more than one age group in a more prevalent shape and form also suggests that this virus is actively mutating itself as we speak. This is not to be taken for granted.
 

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I just hope that the virus's genome (especially the glycoprotein complex studded, projected outward) is being remapped on a continuous basis. The fact that this virus is still new and is now affecting across more than one age group in a more prevalent shape and form also suggests that this virus is actively mutating itself as we speak. This is not to be taken for granted.
Yes, this is a very important part of the global response. I'm aware of multiple efforts doing exactly this, as well as looking at the human immune responses to see how our bodies are reacting immunologically.

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I was thinking about this earlier this week....now's the time to refill the Stategic Petroleum Reserve as oil is cheap as chit. I generally find that conservatives are much better at prepping than liberals but I'm sure some liberals will chime in how wrong I am.

 

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The government needs a plan of action should such an event ever occur again. Mitigation procedures should be readily in place. Unemployment is at a all time high, businesses are closed, and many are very concerned.
 

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I was thinking about this earlier this week....now's the time to refill the Stategic Petroleum Reserve as oil is cheap as chit. I generally find that conservatives are much better at prepping than liberals but I'm sure some liberals will chime in how wrong I am.

I thought that President Trump already gave the order to replenish the SPR? Anyways it is being done or will soon be done.
 

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There has been lots of propaganda to go around. Anyone remember "It's just a flu"... But wait there's more:

And cut off on the bottom was "March 9: This blindsided the world."

So yes, lots of propaganda out there...View attachment 58021

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It is just the flu just much more highly contagious there’s no evidence that suggests the death rate is higher than the flu because we don’t know how many people actually have this. The difference between this and the flu is that the panic has shut everyone down.
 

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Do your approve of all the pork that Pelosi is adding to the bill?
I'd rather see more for individuals and small businesses and much less slush for big corps... We could argue all day on this for sure!

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I'd rather see more for individuals and small businesses and much less slush for big corps... We could argue all day on this for sure!

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Yep - keep the people reliant on handouts from the government instead of helping out the big companies that hire thousands and thousands of workers...
 

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Even if the death rate was indeed the same, it's more contagious, and therefore more people will die.

I don't recall hearing of Italian mortuaries overflowing into churches last season.
 

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I'd rather see more for individuals and small businesses and much less slush for big corps... We could argue all day on this for sure!

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Its not about small business vs big business. Pelosi and her selfish pigs included pork funding for complete nonsense like solar panel credits diversity hiring, same day election registrations, aircraft emissions, immigration provisions etc.
Further understand that the "big bad corps" employ MILLIONS of people.
 

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Yep - keep the people reliant on handouts from the government instead of helping out the big companies that hire thousands and thousands of workers...
I have been working for 40 years and my taxes go to the green haired twits that don't want to work. So yeah, it would be nice to have some of that money to come to my way for once.

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It is just the flu just much more highly contagious there’s no evidence that suggests the death rate is higher than the flu because we don’t know how many people actually have this. The difference between this and the flu is that the panic has shut everyone down.
Any statement that starts with "It's just the flu..." is a disservice. Sure, it's a respiratory virus just as influenza is, but this thing ISN'T the flu. It's novel, and we don't have any endemic resistance to it. When a new "flu" goes around, some of them are much like the other flus that we've been exposed to, and others are pretty different, but they still share a lot of similarities which means that as a population we have a certain level of built up resistance, and even when we come down with the disease we usually have very mild cases compared to what happens when something new comes along.

While I agree that we don't know the actual death rate because the "CFR" is an inflated measure based on diagnosed cases, which misses a lot of nonclinical cases, we do know that it is a) more contagious and b) even the best estimates of the actual death rate make it much more dangerous than "the flu" (of course, the flu varies in intensity, but COVID-19 is likely to be an order of magnitude more dangerous, case-by-case). In one chart, this is what people should be concerned about (source: today's worldometers.info for the US):


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Yesterday's new deaths per day were 247. A week before that, 56, a week before that, 3.

We have JUST started the social distancing thing which means we've probably got another 3-4 weeks of exponential growth in DEATHS, doubling every three days, before it starts tapering off. So, next Wednesday, if the math holds, we will have around a thousand deaths per day, and the week after that, more than four thousand per day, here in the US.

A typical flu season might be around 100 deaths per day, a really bad flu season maybe around 250 per day at its height. So, this week we crossed the threshold in terms of deaths per day compared to what a flu season does. Our health care system is designed to JUST BARELY manage a bad flu season. This year, the flu is mid-range. Not mild, not severe, from what I understand. So we have a LITTLE BIT of extra capacity. That is rapidly going away as the cases flood into the hospitals.

The virus doesn't care about our politics, and this isn't just a "US over-reaction" like some narratives I see. The world has shut down for good reasons, and here in the US it probably needs to stay that way all the way through April, but as Fauci says, the virus makes the timelines, not the politicians. It sucks, but if we let up too soon, we're going to have to start all over again.

This isn't the flu. It's a dangerous novel respiratory infection spreading like wildfire throughout an immunologically naive population, and its specific effects bring on severe pneumonia and other co-infections. Most cases are mild, sure, but a lot of them aren't.
 

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For any of you that may be interested, check the Wundermap on the Weather Underground site. There's a layer now available with Coronavirus cases, by country, for the whole country. I'm not sure exactly how current the data actually is, but it should give you an idea what's going on and where it's going on at.

www.wunderground.com/wundermap

Note that you need to click on the Coronavirus box in the "Featured Data" pane if it's not already checked.
 
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