Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

Jessie.slimer

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I was listening to Prager yesterday and he brought up a good point. This young generation will be the first generation that will have to watch their parents quaking in their boots, terrified needlessly to live their lives. This is likely to have a significant impact on them psychologically. Kids shouldn't have to see that. Especially when its unwarranted.

I remember my parents generation when I was growing up, possibly the same age of many of you guys, as mentally tough and brave. Same with my grandparent's generation. I've always believed it, but see it more every day, that they are indeed the greatest generation. And before you say this pandemic is worse that what they saw, no. Its not. Society is becoming weak.
 

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I prefer him behind the tiny desk. :)

That said, getting the vaccine invented, tested, approved, manufactured and beginning distribution before end of the year is a great accomplishment for the many people involved. Way to go to all involved!
 

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I applaud Trump's coming up with WARP Speed. It was the right move. However let's not rewrite history quite so fast.

  • Trump claimed in an interview with Fox News that aired on Sunday that a COVID-19 vaccine wouldn't have been developed for "five years" if he weren't president.
  • Trump has repeatedly praised his administration's Operation Warp Speed, which has a total budget of $18 billion to spend on helping the US develop, purchase, and distribute vaccines, according to Bloomberg.
  • But Pfizer, which along with BioNTech developed the first COVID-19 vaccine given emergency use authorization by the FDA, didn't take any federal money for research and development.
  • While vaccine development has taken place at a historically fast pace, Trump didn't offer evidence to support his claim that his administration was responsible for shaving more than four years off that timeline.
 

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Sorry, but they processed the order knowing that the govt would pay the bill whether it received approval or not. Thats just as good as taking the money up front. It was a guaranteed sale in their eyes.

Research and development is figured into the sale of the final sale price of the drug. You don't pay a seperate research and development fee when you fill your prescription for any other medication. They made money. A lot of it.
 

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If the vaccine didn't pan out, he would have been excoriated. He deserves the credit for fast tracking it.
Just for clarity, the Pfizer vaccine was invented and in early stage trials before Operation Warp Speed was conceived. The prepayment guarantee for early manufacturing prior to approval was a great way to take risk out of early manufacturing, and the result is months earlier deployment of the vaccine. Trump and Congress get credit they deserve for enabling this. OWS also encouraged other vaccine makers to greater or lesser degree.

I will point out that I know a lot of Trump folks are anti-Fauci, but the prepayment idea was his. He was one of the people with knowledge of the process for vaccine creation and deployment who was able to chart the path to fastest possible deployment. Trump and Congress acted on recommendations made by him and other experts, as it should be.

I will say it is curious that the administration didn't jump on the second allotment of 100 million doses (50 million people worth) from Pfizer when they had the chance. This is likely to delay further access to the Pfizer vaccine after the initial 100 million doses by several months. However, the Moderna vaccine is likely to be approved and fill the gap.

I've been a big fan of OWS from the beginning; it's a bright spot in what has otherwise been a disaster.

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