Hikvision Pricing

LJR_2019

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Is it just me, or did Hikvision's pricing skyrocket? The same cameras I've been using are now $90-$100 more. Related to being banned? Maybe to offset tariffs? Amcrest is looking pretty good right about now
 

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Nothing to do with being banned. There is a huge chip shortage and across the board, anything with computer chips are going to skyrocket. Amcrest will as well as they get new inventory.

 

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I read that posted by Andy and I understand that there is a chip shortage but it didn’t really explain why? To me it sounded like the chip manufacturers were purposely holding onto and controlling the release of their chips in order to inflate prices?
 

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If you're non commercial just hold off buying until prices come down.
 

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The HDD price is going crazy because of the bitcoin. 50% increase in the past 1 week.
Not just cams, all price are increasing.
RIght now shipping cost for 1 40HQ to Europe price around 9000usd, but 2019 was 1800-2000usd per one.
The flood money on the market make everything cost higher and higher. Joe will put another 2 Trillions USD again. :D
 

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I read that posted by Andy and I understand that there is a chip shortage but it didn’t really explain why? To me it sounded like the chip manufacturers were purposely holding onto and controlling the release of their chips in order to inflate prices?
Think: Everyone wants "smart this and that" "IoT everywhere" ... fabs cost a lot to make.. massive pandemic issues on supply chain disruption... -> shortage
 

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Well, security should not wait. I went with Amcrest cameras instead of Hikvision. I can always change them when the prices come down.

From the article Looney linked it doesn't sound as if they're going to as the US isn't likely to remove trade sanctions for Tech. Pity Biden can't allow low tech chips through such as those used currently in surveillance, afgter all, the cat is already out of the bag on those ones.
 

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[Rant on] The government sanctions don't (or at least shouldn't) have anything to do with security and everything to do with politics.

If the government is installing CCTV cameras and giving them unfettered access to the internet, then they deserve to be hacked. While you can never underestimate the stupidity of people, this one takes the cake. There are plenty of ways to secure your network against intrusions (internal or external), and you would think any government network would be implementing these measures regardless of what devices they are putting on the network. In other words, if their networks can be compromised because they use Hikvison or Dahua cameras on them, they have bigger issues to worry about. [/Rant]
 

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[Rant on] The government sanctions don't (or at least shouldn't) have anything to do with security and everything to do with politics.

If the government is installing CCTV cameras and giving them unfettered access to the internet, then they deserve to be hacked. While you can never underestimate the stupidity of people, this one takes the cake. There are plenty of ways to secure your network against intrusions (internal or external), and you would think any government network would be implementing these measures regardless of what devices they are putting on the network. In other words, if their networks can be compromised because they use Hikvison or Dahua cameras on them, they have bigger issues to worry about. [/Rant]
I've not known of the government doing anything that used common sense. Thus, they get hacked all the time.
 

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[Rant on] The government sanctions don't (or at least shouldn't) have anything to do with security and everything to do with politics.

If the government is installing CCTV cameras and giving them unfettered access to the internet, then they deserve to be hacked. While you can never underestimate the stupidity of people, this one takes the cake. There are plenty of ways to secure your network against intrusions (internal or external), and you would think any government network would be implementing these measures regardless of what devices they are putting on the network. In other words, if their networks can be compromised because they use Hikvison or Dahua cameras on them, they have bigger issues to worry about. [/Rant]
Exactly. Like the moron who does not know how to set up a firewall.
 

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It's only like the screwed up Capitalism we have as a whole atm. Lets make everything where it's cheapest - in a communist hostile states country. Lets make them rich by doing so, transfer all our hi tech, and then let wonder why they have the money to build a powerful and hostile military. Answer is greed.

Until people realise that money isn't everything, these absurd situations will continue, whether they are communist cameras watchign the desks of the CIA or top secret engineering companies, or the rise of hostile countries generally. Rule one in any seige is you don't feed your enemy.

The wealthy seem to believe the answer is nuclear bunkers, until they emerge into a country burnt back to the dark agaes and where they have to become farmers because there's no-one left to do the work or anywhere to get the food from (which will all go past edible in their lifetimes anyway along with the fuel = no cars, planes or boats after a couple of years). Don't think they've planned for that one. Lets see how well Armani suits, Rolex and false nails go when on your knees digging the dirt. Greed causes short sightness of the cosnequences.
 

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It's only like the screwed up Capitalism we have as a whole atm. Lets make everything where it's cheapest - in a communist hostile states country. Lets make them rich by doing so, transfer all our hi tech, and then let wonder why they have the money to build a powerful and hostile military. Answer is greed.

Until people realise that money isn't everything, these absurd situations will continue, whether they are communist cameras watchign the desks of the CIA or top secret engineering companies, or the rise of hostile countries generally. Rule one in any seige is you don't feed your enemy.

The wealthy seem to believe the answer is nuclear bunkers, until they emerge into a country burnt back to the dark agaes and where they have to become farmers because there's no-one left to do the work or anywhere to get the food from (which will all go past edible in their lifetimes anyway along with the fuel = no cars, planes or boats after a couple of years). Don't think they've planned for that one. Lets see how well Armani suits, Rolex and false nails go when on your knees digging the dirt. Greed causes short sightness of the cosnequences.
Capitalism is awesome. It is the only system that works and incredibly well. We cannot allow the government to control the means of production in any way shape or form. Nothing wrong with being rich. Every human is greedy. The rich are not your enemy. They spend, invest and assume risk that turns the wheels of the economy. If you dont want to support the chinese buy something made elsewhere there are options. What have you given up in the name of not buying from china?
 

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Capitalism is awesome. It is the only system that works and incredibly well. We cannot allow the government to control the means of production in any way shape or form.
First, let me say that I believe that capitalism is the best economic structure. However it needs to have limits placed on it. Pure capitalism isn't good for the greater good IMHO. Pure capitalism drives companies to make the most money regardless of the way they do it or the consequences. It also tends to make companies have short time horizons and not care about long term effects. Heath, safety, long term environmental impact, etc. all suffer under pure capitalism. There is a fine line of government regulations that are beneficial to society and the greater good. Of course too much government regulation is bad too - hence the balancing act required.

Stating it in a slightly different way, capitalism in the sense that it allows the average person to recognize a need, take a risk, and start a company to meet that need is great and adds tremendous productivity to the economic system. Capitalism in the sense that it pushes companies to cut corners and do bad things in the search for higher and higher profits is not productive to the overall economic system and needs some regulation when the potential harm outweighs the potential good.
 
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