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Mike A.
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Yeah, they'll be kind of overlaid on top of everything. Where I've used both at the same time, I'll virtually always see BI's motion as what triggers (before IVS).
I haven't tried what you guys are discussing but can you check the "Use zones box" but just clear the entire screen and still get the benefit of the make time? i.e., One big blank zone. Or if you have to have something, then just maybe one pixel out of the way somewhere. Don't think that you want to be setting up zones in BI too. That's kind of a mess to start with vs AI and along with everything else you've got going on... naaaa... lol
I haven't tried what you guys are discussing but can you check the "Use zones box" but just clear the entire screen and still get the benefit of the make time? i.e., One big blank zone. Or if you have to have something, then just maybe one pixel out of the way somewhere. Don't think that you want to be setting up zones in BI too. That's kind of a mess to start with vs AI and along with everything else you've got going on... naaaa... lol
The thing thats the most confusing is the camera tracks me the entire time, from trigger until I am out of sight. It's just not recording the entire thing. So the trigger and tracking seem to be working, should I be looking at the recording settings instead of the trigger settings?
I guess I probably need to figure out how to get and use internet explorer, perhaps that record time I am setting in the camera UI isnt sticking somehow?
I guess I probably need to figure out how to get and use internet explorer, perhaps that record time I am setting in the camera UI isnt sticking somehow?
Mike A.
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Yeah, thought probably so but was hoping maybe.
No, most don't use PTZs with tracking. They're very nice to have (obviously) but, at least as far as the tracking goes, they seem to kind of do what they do to some extent. Different scenes will determine that along with cam and BI settings. You have a good cam and look to have a fairly ideal view for it to work well so I'd expect that you can get yours working better.
Mine is a mess with things in the way all over so when it breaks off and stops tracking there's usually good reason for it. But it does just do odd things for no apparent reason at times and there's no real control over that as far as I can see. I run mine continuous+trigger so it never stops recording. Whether it's pointed to record and how well it tracks whatever of interest at a given time is a different matter. I don't use it as a 'primary' cam. Obviously, I want it to work as well as possible but whatever it captures with the auto-tracking and whether I get an alert/clip from it of any value is kind of in addition to. So I don't worry all that much about it losing tracking and missing something.
You have a different use case there. You're trying to use the 180 to make it work more as your primary cam for multiple areas. I think you probably can get there (for the most part at least) but will take more playing with it to make it work reliably. I agree it shouldn't be that hard. But you've got a lot going on between BI/ONVIF/IVS/tracking,etc. Which was why I was saying to try to simplify things and get one thing working well and then deal with whatever quirks as you add complexity.
No, most don't use PTZs with tracking. They're very nice to have (obviously) but, at least as far as the tracking goes, they seem to kind of do what they do to some extent. Different scenes will determine that along with cam and BI settings. You have a good cam and look to have a fairly ideal view for it to work well so I'd expect that you can get yours working better.
Mine is a mess with things in the way all over so when it breaks off and stops tracking there's usually good reason for it. But it does just do odd things for no apparent reason at times and there's no real control over that as far as I can see. I run mine continuous+trigger so it never stops recording. Whether it's pointed to record and how well it tracks whatever of interest at a given time is a different matter. I don't use it as a 'primary' cam. Obviously, I want it to work as well as possible but whatever it captures with the auto-tracking and whether I get an alert/clip from it of any value is kind of in addition to. So I don't worry all that much about it losing tracking and missing something.
You have a different use case there. You're trying to use the 180 to make it work more as your primary cam for multiple areas. I think you probably can get there (for the most part at least) but will take more playing with it to make it work reliably. I agree it shouldn't be that hard. But you've got a lot going on between BI/ONVIF/IVS/tracking,etc. Which was why I was saying to try to simplify things and get one thing working well and then deal with whatever quirks as you add complexity.
Im totally with you and I'm glad I stripped it down to just the PTZ. I now know whatever is preventing it from recording what its tracking is isolated to this camera or Blue Iris.
I have three other cameras on the front of the house in addition to the PTZ and the 180. I also have another cat5 cable strung so potentially 6 cameras out front. Once I figure out the PTZ recording the full track I will figure out best way to get it triggered across the whole 180 degrees.
I am going to dig into getting internet explorer working and see if that dosent jar something loose on the camera.
I was able to get internet explorer working, from one of those links posted above. And wow is it stupid how to get it to open.
It didnt change anything and the tracking duration was set to 120 in IE also. But I may have spotted whats going on because in internet explorer the IVS rules show while the camera is panning. I'm wondering if I am walking out of the IVS rule. While the camera is pointed at the street, I have the IVS rule so it dosent get cars/people going by in the street, like this:
But, I think when the camera tracks and pans, that IVS rule is under the sidewalk I am walking on when the camera stops recording. I am going to make the box the whole frame and see how it goes.
It didnt change anything and the tracking duration was set to 120 in IE also. But I may have spotted whats going on because in internet explorer the IVS rules show while the camera is panning. I'm wondering if I am walking out of the IVS rule. While the camera is pointed at the street, I have the IVS rule so it dosent get cars/people going by in the street, like this:
But, I think when the camera tracks and pans, that IVS rule is under the sidewalk I am walking on when the camera stops recording. I am going to make the box the whole frame and see how it goes.
Yes, it is limiting the recording to 10 seconds. I've walked a few different paths, its tracked me for 30 seconds to a minute and each time its only a 10 second clip.
The frame around the camera goes red for 10 seconds, then goes off. If subject is still in frame it will start recording again, but each instance is limited to 10 seconds.
The frame around the camera goes red for 10 seconds, then goes off. If subject is still in frame it will start recording again, but each instance is limited to 10 seconds.
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this is what my ivs rules look like on PTZ. snapshot is enabled but there are not settings. ill just go get an sd card if you think it will help. i didnt realize its a micro sd card. ive got a ton of regular sd cards but no micro so I will go get one.
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if I make the make time 9.0 seconds it goes back to only recording 10 second clips (it tracks me the whole time, just only records 10 seconds of it).
turn the make time back to 2.0 it goes to recording entire track (but also all the false alarms)
turn the make time back to 2.0 it goes to recording entire track (but also all the false alarms)