Mini PTZ 2nd Gen: 2016 PTZ Camera of the year!

[Promod117]

Heck, you paid on the 6th and already have yours. I paid on the 5th and mine has not been shipped yet. I'm jealous!!!

I received a message this morning indicating the order would be cancelled automatically if not shipped within 7 days. It did give me the option to extend the processing time.

 

[atom]

im sure someone mentioned they are working on a dome ptz and I'm sure it won't take much effort to remove the logo.

im considering plasti dipping one. I'd like it to be a little less conspicuous to the casual passer by .

I asked Monica about this recently. She said it is a 1.3MP PT only, with a fixed 6mm lens.

 

[HotRodDiesels]

Is there a link to the exact camera so a rookie like me can't order the wrong thing?

 

[klasipca]

Is there a link to the exact camera so a rookie like me can't order the wrong thing?

It's the same link where you ordered yours, but need to check with Monica on the availability.

 

[klasipca]

The "hidden" IRs

UI is all the same.

Firmware running:

Program Version	V1.0.2 Build 201512121703
Control Version	MiniPtz_V1.0.2_build201512011507
Web Page Version	1.1.1 Build 20151212
Plugin Version	1.0.4.41

 

[atom]

Just the 2 IRs klasipca, or are there 2 more up the top for different zoom?

Thanks for this, am following with interest!

 

[pfer10]

The "hidden" IRs

They look hidden to me as long as they are not on. eaceful:

 

[dmsims]

F5, f5

 

[klasipca]

I have guests over, so not much I can do with testing today, but one thing for sure, design is the same, just hidden panel for IRs as you saw, UI is the same and probably the same firmware because I didn't see any obvious differences. I ran into an issue when I changed ports. The settings do not stick. Still not sure if it's a bug will have to check on that. One thing is left to see if the image quality is improved.

 

[klasipca]

Just the 2 IRs klasipca, or are there 2 more up the top for different zoom?

Thanks for this, am following with interest!

Yup two more IRs at the top when zooming in.

 

[klasipca]

Well folks. I guess I will be a slight buzz kill with this cam. It's definitely not worse then 1st gen, but the improvements are so negligible that jumping to replace 1st gen is not worth while. Kind of think of going from Hikvision 3MP to 4MP, but even less obvious difference. Overall these are my findings:

Differences:
1. IR leds location has changed, two on top for long distance, two on the bottom for short distance
2. Firmware is pretty much identical. The only new difference I noticed is with the 2nd gen they added setting for 1280x720 & 1280x960 as your recording resolution
3. Night vision showed very little difference, there appears to be only minor improvement in terms of noise, but it's pretty much negligible. (I haven't tried in daylight yet)


Didn't have a better shared object to record so this is all I can do for now. Try to guess which one is which (NR is at 50%, default settings otherwise with 1080p@30fps 10000 Mbps, fully zoomed in at 10x)

Test setup



With all IR power (4 total)







No IR






With it's own IR (2 each)

 

[atom]

Great stuff, thanks @klasipca. Dissapointing that there aren't obvious improvements, at least at night, but at least it's still a good thing.

What interests me is the 10000Mbps. I was under the impression that one of the main advantages of the Ambarella processor was the ability to get the same or better image quality with substantially lower bitrates. If you set them to variable, with the same high max-bitrate, does the new one use less bandwidth?

BTW, have they added H265 as an option?

Thanks again.

 

[klasipca]

Great stuff, thanks @klasipca. Dissapointing that there aren't obvious improvements, at least at night, but at least it's still a good thing.

What interests me is the 10000Mbps. I was under the impression that one of the main advantages of the Ambarella processor was the ability to get the same or better image quality with substantially lower bitrates. If you set them to variable, with the same high max-bitrate, does the new one use less bandwidth?

BTW, have they added H265 as an option?

Thanks again.

No, there is no H265.

I tried to record the same tree at 4000 Mbps @ 15 fps VBR in both cams and really don't see any difference in terms of which is one is better and bitrate was about the same

Final shot by Huisun gen 1 to show IRs in gen 2

Power measurement:

Idle (no IR) 3.3watt
Idle (IR for wide area) 9.3 watt
Idle (IR for long distance) 8.4 watt
PTZ (IR) jumped up to 15.5 watt, stayed at 11 watt

 

[hunte88]

Hi klasipca.
The hidden's led when are turned on, the human's eye can see them ?

 

[klasipca]

Hi klasipca.
The hidden's led when are turned on, the human's eye can see them ?

Yes, no magic here

 

[hunte88]

Sorry i thought of something like laser technology

If so what do you need to hide the LEDs?

 

[thesleepy_slee]

Sorry i thought of something like laser technology

If so what do you need to hide the LEDs?

Turn them off

Sent from my 1+1 using Tapatalk

 

[klasipca]

There is one other new firmware feature. Digital zoom up to 160x.

10x optical




40


80


120


160

 

[Mael]

As others have reported with the 1st gen camera, the corners of the picture are a bit blurry during the day. It will be interesting to see if this new version has the same problem.

 

[alastairstevenson]

Do the IR LEDs still show the faint red glow to the human eye?
I'm wondering if they have managed to implement a filter which cuts off the human-visible portion of the spread from the 850nm peak but leaves the camera-visible portion largely intact.
*edit* Missed the earlier answer.