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So I currently have 8ch SANNCE NVR (non-Poe) system. The quality is great but the alerts are so bad that I have them turned off. I’m looking to upgrade to to a POE or CCTV system (preferably POE) because I live 3 streets over from the “most dangerous” city in America (Camden, NJ) and I don’t want to be in a position where my alerts are turned off and someone is coming through a window.

I prefer atleast one ptz, and love the deterrent lights.

whats your recommendations?
 

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whats your recommendations
Read the Cliff Notes and check out the WIKI. Also checkout


So it looks like you have changed your stance about not going wireless?

The first thing you need to do is look at your house and decide where you want coverage and make requirements for each position. From those requirements you make a plan and choose cams. You also have to decide on NVR or a PC running something like Blue Iris. That decision will dictate what brand of cams you get. If you want to go the NVR route, then you really need to get the same brand NVR as the cams you get. Saying you want a POE and like deterrence lights is fine, but not every position needs those kind of cams.

Once you have a plan, buy just one varifocal cam, like the Dahua UPC-HDW5442T-ZE (aka IPC-T5442T-ZE) and use it on a test rig as described in the Cliff Notes to test out each location. Do not run wires or mount the cam until you are happy with the location. You can use this cam to calculate the proper fixed lens FOV at a specific location. This will save you a little money and give you a little better low-light color performance.

Start small and work it over time. You will find that your plan evolves over time as you gain experience.

There are lots of threads on PTZ cams here with great reviews of them. Member @Wildcat_1 has done some great reviews of them.
 
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A wired monitored alarm system first, Windows sensors, door sensors, break glass sensors, inside motion detectors. Multiple very loud (+120DB) sirens. One inside and two out side. If you can stay in the house with the siren on, it is not loud enough. Also add a red flashing light, easily visible from the street.

Cameras are for surveillance, to tell you what happened and possible who did it after the fact. Unmonitored cameras are not for security. By the time you get an alert and call the cops, the bad guys are gone.

NO WIFI CRAP.
 
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Read the Cliff Notes and check out the WIKI. Also checkout


So it looks like you have changed your stance about not going wireless?

The first thing you need to do is look at your house and decide where you want coverage and make requirements for each position. From those requirements you make a plan and choose cams. You also have to decide on NVR or a PC running something like Blue Iris. That decision will dictate what brand of cams you get. If you want to go the NVR route, then you really need to get the same brand NVR as the cams you get. Saying you want a POE and like deterrence lights is fine, but not every position needs those kind of cams.

Once you have a plan, buy just one varifocal cam, like the Dahua UPC-HDW5442T-ZE (aka IPC-T5442T-ZE) and use it on a test rig as described in the Cliff Notes to test out each location. Do not run wires or mount the cam until you are happy with the location. You can use this cam to calculate the proper fixed lens FOV at a specific location. This will save you a little money and give you a little better low-light color performance.

Start small and work it over time. You will find that your plan evolves over time as you gain experience.

There are lots of threads on POE cams here with great reviews of them. Member @Wildcat_1 has done some great reviews of them.
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A wired monitored alarm system first, Windows sensors, door sensors, break glass sensors, inside motion detectors. Multiple very loud (+120DB) sirens. One inside and two out side. If you can stay in the house with the siren on, it is not loud enough. Also add a red flashing light, easily visible from the street.

Cameras are for surveillance, to tell you what happened and possible who did it after the fact. Unmonitored cameras are not for security. By the time you get an alert and call the cops, the bad guys are gone.

NO WIFI CRAP.
im not looking to call cops, I want to know when someone is on my property, I don’t want any sensors or alarms, I want to meet them at the door
 

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Make sure you have a good understanding of the laws in your city/state before you "greet" people at your door.
 

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Alarm 1st, fortify your doors so they can't be kicked in - probably the number 1 means of forced entry outside the EU where they tend to snap Eurolocks, Window protection - break films can slow an attack down and buy a bit of time for you to grab your firearm, good window locks and bars if the area is really that bad. Then AR15 or shotgun (know your local laws so you don't end up in prison!). As many have said, a camera will only record the evidence of you being murdered, it won't do anything to stop it, nor will failing to fortify your perimeter and being woken up by being murdered in your sleep.
 

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Yeah I can hit them with the telephone, but I'm probably get prosecuted and sued for by the intruder for damages,plus it will probably cut me off from the police. I could challenege them but I'd probably get knifed. In the UK barring the windows is a bad idea, you need them open so you can get out the back whilst they're coming in the front. Fending them off with feather dusters so as to not hurt them isn't very effective. I could stand there and tell them they're naughy though.
 

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What’s your opinion on Lorex systems? Reolink
Stay as far away from Reolink as you can. Lorex is generally Dahua but with options removed and their own firmware. They do not manufacture their own cams. That is how they keep the price so low.

A kit is generally not worth it. Lately they have been pushing wireless and 4K cams on small sensors. Low light color performance will be bad. Kits generally have all the same cams and are usually very wide angle, like 2.8mm. That is fine for an overview cam, but unless the perp is up close to the cam, you will never get a good face shot that will ID the guy. Rarely will one just use a single model for every view needed. Most folks prefer to pick the right cam for the job at hand. I currently have 18 deployed over 10 different models. Like I said in post #3 above, you need to develop a plan.
 

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Can you guys stick to point? What’s your opinion on Lorex systems? Reolink? Budget around 500, min of 6 cams
Welcome @Breakrellom

Question: What's your opinion on Nissan? Yugo? Budget around 5000, min 6 cylinders
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This is similar to the question you have asked.

There's more to consider other than just the brand.

In the example above, what else do you need in a car? Haul stuff? Off road? City commuter? ..



So... reply to your question:

A) What’s your opinion on Lorex systems? - most Lorex branded products now are Dahua OEM, Dahua recently purchased Lorex from FLIR. Higher priced kits are decent, but lacking features that many member prefer. Often has deals around BF-cyberweek - uncertain what to expect this year due to Pandemic related supply chain issues. Please read the forum for Lorex threads.

B) Reolink? Disliked by many members here.. please search the forum for Reolink threads.

C) Budget around 500, min of 6 cams. That will be a challenge ... right now as I noted there are issues with the supply chain -> resulting in less deals available. Even when deals are available that is a challenging price point to when considering other quality related requirements.


PLEASE do take the time to learn more before jumping into a purchase - none of us want to see you waste your money on something which fails completely to accomplish what you may expect security / surveillance cameras to accomplish for you.

Ask yourself what do you need / want in a security camera system. See the cliff notes on this topic...
 
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