New computer needed for Blue Iris

[Doolally]

Note that despite what BI reports, more memory can be helpful in some scenarios...Blue iris and CPU consumption as it relates to memory usage

Of course would always look to max out my machines for less CPU usage

 

[fenderman]

@fenderman I have an old G5 DL 380 HP Xeon machine that may be repurposed is that overkill or would it be better than the 3040 I just purchased, it was was my original file server but have a new one now.
thanks
Doo

Those old servers are powerhogs..a new system will pay for itself....they also have issues running bi...

 

[Doolally]

Thanks Bud yes and sounds like a jet engine

 

[Dave Lindsay]

With mine, I took out the DVD drive, you need it's SATA port anyways, then put the SSD in the DVD space. And HD on top.

Thanks again for the suggestion. I may go the route of plopping an SSD in one of these slim optical bay caddies/mounts (Amazon Link)

For OS and BI, can anyone comment on whether a SATA SSD vs NVMe M.2 in a PCIe slot would provide noticeable performance difference over the other? The SATA interface will be slower by nature, but I suspect it won't be noticeably slower for basic OS/BI use.

 

[essjay]

Thanks again for the suggestion. I may go the route of plopping an SSD in one of these slim optical bay caddies/mounts (Amazon Link)

For OS and BI, can anyone comment on whether a SATA SSD vs NVMe M.2 in a PCIe slot would provide noticeable performance difference over the other? The SATA interface will be slower by nature, but I suspect it won't be noticeably slower for basic OS/BI use.

Be surprised if you noticed any difference

 

[ndstate]

Are there disadvantages for the t processors? Was looking at i5-7500T. Also, any advantage with the 7500 line vs the 6500? Thanks

 

[steltek]

Are there disadvantages for the t processors? Was looking at i5-7500T. Also, any advantage with the 7500 line vs the 6500? Thanks

The 7500T is intended as a lower power desktop processor -- its lower clockspeed gets it a 35 watt TDP rating. It also is significantly outperformed in both single thread and multi-thread applications by the 6500. You don't want a 7500T.

The 7500 vs 6500 is pretty much a wash performance wise -- the 7500 is the Kaby Lake refresh of the 6500 Skylake. The 7500 performs a little better, and has improved integrated graphics with better decoding. It also supports the latest USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10Gb/s vs the 5Gb/s supported on the 6500). If the prices are close together, go with the 7500. OTOH, if you end up with a 6500, you probably won't be missing much performance wise.

 

[ndstate]

The 7500T is intended as a lower power desktop processor -- its lower clockspeed gets it a 35 watt TDP rating. It also is significantly outperformed in both single thread and multi-thread applications by the 6500. You don't want a 7500T.

The 7500 vs 6500 is pretty much a wash performance wise -- the 7500 is the Kaby Lake refresh of the 6500 Skylake. The 7500 performs a little better, and has improved integrated graphics with better decoding. It also supports the latest USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10Gb/s vs the 5Gb/s supported on the 6500). If the prices are close together, go with the 7500. OTOH, if you end up with a 6500, you probably won't be missing much performance wise.

Thanks!

 

[CaliGirl]

Can a knowledgeable user suggest Blue Iris desktop setup that will handle 8x, 4mp Dahua Cameras please? A web link to the machine or ebay listing is preferred please.

I have a 4TB Purple drive to put in the machine from my Dahua NVR. Prefer something that has an HDMI output to plug in my TV for a screen.

I've been following along for weeks now and I have a hard time understanding Windows machines. This will be at a remote site and will need to be reliable. The idea is to have this machine constantly record for Blue Iris, but also crunch the footage at the end of the day and make time lapses of the footage. I'd also like to log into the machine remotely with a Mac and control the UI.

 

[fenderman]

Can a knowledgeable user suggest Blue Iris desktop setup that will handle 8x, 4mp Dahua Cameras please? A web link to the machine or ebay listing is preferred please.

I have a 4TB Purple drive to put in the machine from my Dahua NVR. Prefer something that has an HDMI output to plug in my TV for a screen.

I've been following along for weeks now and I have a hard time understanding Windows machines. This will be at a remote site and will need to be reliable. The idea is to have this machine constantly record for Blue Iris, but also crunch the footage at the end of the day and make time lapses of the footage. I'd also like to log into the machine remotely with a Mac and control the UI.

Because logging in remotely can spike cpu, i would suggest an i7-6700/7700 with at least 8/16gb memory and an ssd for the OS and blue iris.

 

[CaliGirl]

$1,079 sound right for i7-770 16gb with an SSD? HP EliteDesk 800 Tower Business Desktop | HP® Official Store!

or $629? HP - ENVY Desktop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 2TB Hard Drive - Brushed Aluminum

 

[fenderman]

$1,079 sound right for i7-770 16gb with an SSD? HP EliteDesk 800 Tower Business Desktop | HP® Official Store!

or $629? HP - ENVY Desktop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 2TB Hard Drive - Brushed Aluminum

search the forum..you can get the elitedesk towers for 400-500 i7-6700....add your own ssd...
the 7700 is not worth double...

 

[CaliGirl]

search the forum..you can get the elitedesk towers for 400-500 i7-6700....add your own ssd...
the 7700 is not worth double...

This one and add my own SSD? HP Z240 i7-6700 3.4GHz, 8GB 500GB DVDRW, Win 10 Pro, Tower, 1Yr HP Wrty On-Site | eBay

 

[tacocat]

Would an Intel BOXNUC7I5BNK cut for about 7 cameras ranging from 4MP to 1MP? Or do I need more firepower?

 

[fenderman]

This one and add my own SSD? HP Z240 i7-6700 3.4GHz, 8GB 500GB DVDRW, Win 10 Pro, Tower, 1Yr HP Wrty On-Site | eBay

that would work...
NEW HP EliteDesk 800 G2 I7-6700 3.40GHz 4GB RAm 500GB HDD Desktop PC Warr 2019
that is a brand new unit with warranty until 2019..you will need to add memory (buy matching memory)...they can be found cheaper if you have patience...I got mine for 400 with buy it now with SSD (but that low is unusual)..500 or so generally...

 

[fenderman]

Would an Intel BOXNUC7I5BNK cut for about 7 cameras ranging from 4MP to 1MP? Or do I need more firepower?

Would depend on the number of 4mp...regardless, NUC is a poor choice..overpriced and relatively weak and cannot hold a 3.5 drive which are ideal for storage.
You can buy an i5-6500 system for 300...

 

[tacocat]

Oh true... having a wd purple drive seems to be key from what I've read around here.

 

[fenderman]

Oh true... having a wd purple drive seems to be key from what I've read around here.

you dont need a purple for your load, though its best, but 2.5 drives have limited room...if you want a system that performs nicely, use ssd for OS and BI then purple for storage..

 

[CaliGirl]

that would work...
NEW HP EliteDesk 800 G2 I7-6700 3.40GHz 4GB RAm 500GB HDD Desktop PC Warr 2019
that is a brand new unit with warranty until 2019..you will need to add memory (buy matching memory)...they can be found cheaper if you have patience...I got mine for 400 with buy it now with SSD (but that low is unusual)..500 or so generally...

Ok thank you. Sitting patient tonight and keeping an eye out for something similar. There is only one on ebay currently. Will upgrade to matching 8gbx2 memory for a total of 2 and a small SSD drive. If anyone sees something, feel free to share

 

[essjay]

On thing to keep in mind if you're putting the PC remotely is to enable auto-restart in the bios if there's a power failure (and make sure the PC has that option available). I'd put a good UPS in there and configure the PC to do a graceful shutdown in the event of a power failure and reboot once the power is back up. It's not something I've done so you'll need to research it.

Also make sure you don't buy a machine that's Small Form Factor (SFF) or Ultra-SFF as they can't usually take an SSD for the operating system and then a 3.5" drive for the recordings.

Finally, what versions of Windows 10 can you prevent automatic updates? It might only be Enterprise. But if the machine is remote I'd prefer not have windows update and reboot itself.