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Getting ready to purchase exterior security cameras. I have been reading about different brands, reviewing the WIKI recommendations, and watching multiple videos on YouTube. Have finally decided to go with Duhua cameras and NVR. Our home is close to the street in a fairly quiet residential area. Have prewired the attic with Cat6 cable. Computer is Apple iMac running 11.2.1 OS. Have already downloaded SmartPSS. Will only purchase English equipment versions.

For the NVR I can't decide between the NVR4208-8P-4KS2E and the N42B2P.
Starting with two cameras, T5442T-ZE White 4MP IR Vari-Focal Eyeball Starlight Network Camera English Version.
Later will add a camera to cover the side yard located behind a fence, and one to cover the carriage house.

One camera will watch the off street parking space which is about 30 feet from the house. The second camera will watch the front yard, home entry, and sidewalk. Home is about 20 feet front street. Not much sidewalk traffic other than people waking dogs.
 
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if using an NVR, use the same manufactory of the NVR and your Camera.
If you think you will only have 8 cameras buy 16 camera NVR. The limiting factor on the NVRs is the processing power, compare the Mbps incoming outgoing bandwidth.

Good choice on the starter camera.
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My standard welcome to the forum message.

Read Study Plan before spending money
Cameras are for surveillance to get information for after the fact.

Please read the IP Cam Talk Cliff Notes and other items in the IP Cam Talk Wiki. (read on a real computer, not a phone). The wiki is in the blue bar at the top of the page.

Read How to Secure Your Network (Don't Get Hacked!) in the wiki also.


Quick start
1) If you do not have a wired monitored alarm system, get that first
2) Use Dahua starlight cameras or Hikvision darkfighter cameras if you need good low light cameras.
3) Start with a good variable focus camera, so you test for the correct lens,lighting, camera placement.
4) use a VPN to access home network (openVPN)
5) Do not use wifi cameras.
6) Do not use cloud storage
7) Do Not use uPNP, P2P, QR, do not open ports,
8) More megapixel is not necessarily better.
9) Avoid chinese hacked cameras (most ebay, amazon, aliexpress cameras(not all, but most))
10) Do not use reolink, ring, nest, Arlo, Vivint cameras (they are junk), no cloud cameras
11) If possible use a turret camera , bullet collect spiders, dome collect dirt and reflect light (IR)
12) Use only solid copper, AWG 23 or 24 ethernet wire. , no CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum)
13) use a test mount to verify the camera mount location. My test rig: rev.2
14) (Looney2ns)If you want to be able to ID faces, don't mount cams higher than 7ft. You want to know who did it, not just what happened.
15) Use a router that has openVPN built in (Most ASUS, Some NetGear....)
16) camera placement use the calculator... IPVM Camera Calculator V3
17) POE list PoE Switch Suggestion List
18) Camera Sensor size, bigger is general better Sensor Size Chart
19) Camera lens size, a bigger number give more range but less field of view. Which Security Camera Lens Size Should I Buy?
20) verify your camera placement, have a friend wearing a hoodie, ball cap and sunglasses looking down approach the house, can you identify them at night ?
21) DO NOT UPGRADE your NVR or camera unless you absolutely have a problem that needs to be fixed and known what you are doing, if you do you will turn it into a brick !!

Cameras to look at
IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED . Review IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED (Full Color, Starlight+) - 4MP starlight
.................... Dahua IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED review
IPC-T5442TM-AS ..... Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+ - 4MP starlight+
IPC-HDW5442t-ZE .... Dahua IPC-HDW5442T-ZE 4MP Varifocal Turret - Night Perfomance testing -- variable focus 2.7 mm-12mm 4 MP Starlight
IPC-B5442E-ZE ...... Review - OEM IPC-B5442E-ZE 4MP AI Varifocal Bullet Camera With Starlight+ -- variable 2.7mm-12mm bullet
IPC-B5442E-Z4E .... bullet 8mm-32mm variable focus zoom 4MP
IPC-HFW7442H-Z ..... Review - Dahua IPC-HFW7442H-Z 4MP Ultra AI Varifocal Bullet Camera -- 4 MP variable focus AI
IPC-T2347G-LU ...... Review of the Hikvision OEM model IPC-T2347G-LU 'ColorVu' IP CCTV camera. (DS-2CD2347G1-LU)
IPC-HDW2231R-ZS .... Review-Dahua IPC-HDW2231RP-ZS Starlight Camera-Varifocal
IPC-HDW2231T-ZS-S2 . Review-OEM IPC-T2231T-ZS Ver 2, 2mp Varifocal Starlight Camera
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE .... Review-Dahua Starlight IPC-HDW5231R-ZE 800 meter capable ePOE
IPC-HFW4239T-ASE ... IPC-HFW4239T-ASE
IPCT-HDW5431RE-I ... Review - IP Cam Talk 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera
IPC-T5241H-AS-PV ... Review-OEM IPC-T5241H-AS-PV 2mp AI active deterrence cam
IPC-T3241-ZAS ...... Review-OEM IPC-T3241-ZAS 2mp AI Lite series Varifocal -- 2mp AI Lite series Varifocal
IPC-HFW2831T-ZS ... Review-Dahua IPC-HFW2831T-ZS 8MP WDR IR Bullet Network Camera -- 8MP Bullet 1/1.8” sensor variable focus.
DS-2CD2325FWD-I
N22AL12 ............ New Dahua N22AL12 Budget Cam w/Starlight -- low cost entry
IPC-T2347G-LU....... Review-Loryta OEM 4MP IPC-T2347G-LU ColorVu Fixed Turret Network 4mm lens & Junction Box -- 4MP ColorVu
.................... Review of the Hikvision OEM model IPC-T2347G-LU 'ColorVu' IP CCTV camera.

Other dahua 4MP starlight Dahua 4MP Starlight Lineup

My preferred indoor cameras
DS-2CD2442FWD-IW
IPC-K35A Review-Dahua IPC-K35A 3mp Cube Camera
IPC-K42A


Read,study,plan before spending money ..... plan plan plan
Doing it right the first time will save you money.
Test do not guess
 
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Welcome to IPCT ! :wave:
 
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Welcome and there is TONS of knowledge on this forum and from these fine folks. LISTEN to what they say...it wills save you money and time!

I wish I had known this:

if using an NVR, use the same manufactory of the NVR and your Camera.
If you think you will only have 8 cameras buy 16 camera NVR. The limiting factor on the NVRs is the processing power, compare the Mbps incoming outgoing bandwidth.
 
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Eweneek1 said:
Getting ready to purchase exterior security cameras. I have been reading about different brands, reviewing the WIKI recommendations, and watching multiple videos on YouTube. Have finally decided to go with Duhua cameras and NVR. Our home is close to the street in a fairly quiet residential area. Have prewired the attic with Cat6 cable. Computer is Apple iMac running 11.2.1 OS. Have already downloaded SmartPSS. Will only purchase English equipment versions.

For the NVR I can't decide between the NVR4208-8P-4KS2E and the N42B2P.
Starting with two cameras, T5442T-ZE White 4MP IR Vari-Focal Eyeball Starlight Network Camera English Version.
Later will add a camera to cover the side yard located behind a fence, and one to cover the carriage house.

One camera will watch the off street parking space which is about 30 feet from the house. The second camera will watch the front yard, home entry, and sidewalk. Home is about 20 feet front street. Not much sidewalk best online casino rouletteguide.com traffic other than people waking dogs.
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Welcome to the forum! Good luck with your cameras.
 
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Both the Duhua NVR recorders seem to have identical specifications, but with a price difference of $100. What exactly is the difference between the NVR4208-8P-4KS2E and the N42B2P?
 
if you are interested in International Dahua cameras, a forum member sells dahua (and some Hikvision) and ships world wide. You can read some of the members recommendations on his service. He also provides cameras to other forum member for evaluation and reviews.
You can email him for a quote, or purchase from his Aliexpress store or his Amazon store. The cameras are fully upgradable, he posts upgrade software when available.

I recommend emailing Andy for a quote

Andy
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Andy's ipcamtalk vendor forum: EmpireTech Andy
Andy's AliExpress store: Empire Technology Co., Ltd - Amazing prodcuts with exclusive discounts on AliExpress
Andy's Amazon store: Amazon.com
 
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Finally was able to get the N52B2P NVR delivered. Will need to return it though, the recorder is just too noisy. You can hear the fan running two rooms away. Dahua makes great cameras, for some reason they can't make a quiet NVR. Any recommendations for a replacement. Would just run Blue Iris with a POE switch, but don't want a PC.
 
Have a look around the Dahua thread. There's a way to quiet the fan down. If I remember correctly it involves changing the fan to a different one, but it isn't hard or rocket science. A PC with BI would be the best solution, IMHO. Far more versatile and won't consume any more power than an NVR if properly configured.
 
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I have a Dahua NVR5216-4KS2, which I specifically ordered as I did not want the noise of the cooling from the built in POE's. I have two fanless POE switches in my closet for that, they run cool. I did replace my fans, not because I had to, but because I wanted a pull-push system in the case, especially with two hard drives. I did update the fans to these.


They move air and are not loud. It works for me.
 
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Have a look around the Dahua thread. There's a way to quiet the fan down. If I remember correctly it involves changing the fan to a different one, but it isn't hard or rocket science. A PC with BI would be the best solution, IMHO. Far more versatile and won't consume any more power than an NVR if properly configured.
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I have a Dahua NVR5216-4KS2, which I specifically ordered as I did not want the noise of the cooling from the built in POE's. I have two fanless POE switches in my closet for that, they run cool. I did replace my fans, not because I had to, but because I wanted a pull-push system in the case, especially with two hard drives. I did update the fans to these.


They move air and are not loud. It works for me.

How much quieter is the non poe nvr unit? Would I still need to replace the fan? If a POE switch is used, are they all fanless? Have a Netgear credit. I only have one port left on the router which could be used for the NVR. Have several ports left on a non POE switch to possibly accept cabling from the POE switch.
 
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Eweneek1 said:
I have a Dahua NVR5216-4KS2, which I specifically ordered as I did not want the noise of the cooling from the built in POE's. I have two fanless POE switches in my closet for that, they run cool. I did replace my fans, not because I had to, but because I wanted a pull-push system in the case, especially with two hard drives. I did update the fans to these.


They move air and are not loud. It works for me.

How much quieter is the non poe nvr unit? Would I still need to replace the fan? If a POE switch is used, are they all fanless? Have a Netgear credit. I only have one port left on the router which could be used for the NVR. Have several ports left on a non POE switch to possibly accept cabling from the POE switch.
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Well, everyone's version of 'quiet' is different. I water cool ALL of my pc's, mostly because I hate heat buildup, I just think its 'cool', but also they are almost silent. I sleep in the same room as my NVR...no problems. Is it completely silent? Nope, I can hear the fans, but they are not loud at all, but more importantly, they pull and push air thru the NVR case very efficiently. Do you have to replace the one oem fan inside of it? No, you do not. I do not remember it being loud at all.

My experience with large, multi port POE switches is that they can be very loud. I have these Netgear POE Switches: I like them a lot. Set them and forget them.


I hope this helps.
 
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I ran a LaView NVR for 5 years on my 72u rack - super loud (could have switched out the fan but my rack is in the basement). Switched to BI on a PC and is super quiet. Also if security is really what is on your mind consider BI as it will give you ‘actionable’ alerts. At least for the LaView NVR the settings for motion and alerts are 4th grade level compared to the motions settings and alert abilities of BI. I got started with BI after the integration with DeepStack and I think that was a game changer for BI
 
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