Oceanslider
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But I thought they didn't allow people to leave the Marianne Williamson fanboy club.
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Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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mat200
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Example of the NY Times defending the WHO despite facts which should be obvious to anyone following this thread.
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With limited, constantly shifting information, the W.H.O. showed an early, consistent determination to treat the new contagion like the threat it would become
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With limited, constantly shifting information, the W.H.O. showed an early, consistent determination to treat the new contagion like the threat it would become
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NYT journalists must have short term memory.
WHO said there was no evidence of human to human transmission.?
WHO said it was not likely to be pandemic?
WHO said other countries should not close the borders?
Everything WHO said was wrong
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Brah, I never thought I'd live to see the end of the world but now I'm convinced it's here.
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Beer may lose its fizz as CO2 supplies go flat during pandemic
Dwindling supplies of carbon dioxide from ethanol plants is sparking concern about shortages of beer, soda and seltzer water - essentials for many quarantined Americans.
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Take my toilet paper.
Close my bar.
Shut down the sports, including NASCAR.
But make my beer flat? Say it ain't so, man......
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The question is ultimately, WHO the heck is WHO? 
What are the ultimate goals of the World Health Organization?
What are the ultimate goals of the World Health Organization? Revised you say? 
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Paris Climate Accord all over again?
Drain that swamp.
Exactly. This is what they will be investigating. And its not looking good, with all the expensive travel, 5 star hotels, back room deals....The question is ultimately, WHO the heck is WHO?
Paris Climate Accord all over again?
Drain that swamp.
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OK, fair enough. Turned out to be fake. I admit I jumped too soon.
Meanwhile this CEO is stoked, he's really excited to sell his Hand Sanitizer 
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Meanwhile this CEO is stoked, he's really excited to sell his Hand Sanitizer
Interesting...
Art Naturals.. claims they are doing what they can to protect workers.. and yet none are wearing masks...wondering if operations like this will become the next pork processing plant...
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Meanwhile this CEO is stoked, he's really excited to sell his Hand Sanitizer
He's going to go into a deep depression once we beat this virus.
Oceanslider
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Thanks for the laugh. Best one in quite a while. But so damn true.
Regretfully most of the news outlets are liberal owned so hence the push against, in their minds anyway, "False Hope" is strong.
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How DARE they?!? After all those hours of television programming (literally!) haven't they learned to always live in fear?
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An excerpt....
"Cuomo continued, “The federal government cannot wipe its hands of this and say, `Oh, the states are responsible for testing.’ We cannot do it. We cannot do it without federal help,” he said. Though recently Cuomo said all actions would be taken by him at the state level and that the feds were superfluous to the situation. Which is it, Andrew?
The New York governor also said he had thanked the president for the aid that Trump sent to New York, such as the USNS Comfort and the field hospital at the Javits Center. “How many times do you want me to say thank you for doing your job?” Cuomo said. Does he mean the job he said that didn’t need done by the feds?"
In reality, the Javits Center Hospital and the USNS Comfort did NOT NEED TO BE DONE by the feds as evidenced by the little to non-use. I find it funny how the gubernors where talking about opening up their states and Trump says it's his decision then Trump tweets “LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” “LIBERATE VIRGINIA,” and then the gubernors drag their feet to open up states to provide more freedoms.
"Cuomo continued, “The federal government cannot wipe its hands of this and say, `Oh, the states are responsible for testing.’ We cannot do it. We cannot do it without federal help,” he said. Though recently Cuomo said all actions would be taken by him at the state level and that the feds were superfluous to the situation. Which is it, Andrew?
The New York governor also said he had thanked the president for the aid that Trump sent to New York, such as the USNS Comfort and the field hospital at the Javits Center. “How many times do you want me to say thank you for doing your job?” Cuomo said. Does he mean the job he said that didn’t need done by the feds?"
In reality, the Javits Center Hospital and the USNS Comfort did NOT NEED TO BE DONE by the feds as evidenced by the little to non-use. I find it funny how the gubernors where talking about opening up their states and Trump says it's his decision then Trump tweets “LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” “LIBERATE VIRGINIA,” and then the gubernors drag their feet to open up states to provide more freedoms.
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As I mentioned earlier. Cuomo's comments (highlighted above in Democrat blue
) came after Trump brilliantly stated "Total Authority".
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Dr John Campbell's video from today used data from the Netherlands to determine that the CFR ~= 0.6-7 in the Netherlands
This is good news, and provided you can keep the Hospital system from being overwhelmed we should expect this would apply to many other countries.
Officially Netherlands has
30,619 cases
3,459 deaths ( which would mean 11.2% CFR if you assume # cases listed above is accurate )
in 10,000 blood donations, they tested 3% had antibodies for Sars-cov-2 ( so we assume 3% had been exposed to Sars-cov-2 )
Thus project that 3% have been exposed. Or 519,000 in the Netherlands. Thus using that number and the official death count to COVID-19 he gets 0.66% CFR.
Naturally this is still a moving target, but significantly less than what has been reported in other places.
This is good news, and provided you can keep the Hospital system from being overwhelmed we should expect this would apply to many other countries.
Officially Netherlands has
30,619 cases
3,459 deaths ( which would mean 11.2% CFR if you assume # cases listed above is accurate )
in 10,000 blood donations, they tested 3% had antibodies for Sars-cov-2 ( so we assume 3% had been exposed to Sars-cov-2 )
Thus project that 3% have been exposed. Or 519,000 in the Netherlands. Thus using that number and the official death count to COVID-19 he gets 0.66% CFR.
Naturally this is still a moving target, but significantly less than what has been reported in other places.
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This is good and expected. Still a lot worse than flu, but better than earlier numbers.
But one note of caution: the term CFR means Case fatality rate which means only diagnosed cases can be included in the numbers. Asymptomatic or subclinical individuals --who wouldn't have reported it and become cases-- aren't factored into a CFR.
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But one note of caution: the term CFR means Case fatality rate which means only diagnosed cases can be included in the numbers. Asymptomatic or subclinical individuals --who wouldn't have reported it and become cases-- aren't factored into a CFR.
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