We'll just have to have a major disagreement on this and go on. I can't believe for a second that everybody who had covid-19 at the time of death died because of covid-19.
Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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That's not what the numbers are saying. The numbers are for people whose primary cause of death recorded by the doctor was COVID-19. Lots of people died routinely from other things while having tested positive for Covid; that would be an entirely different dataset. There are a few jurisdictions where any death with Covid was ruled due to COVID for some period of time, but again this is just minor noise in the data.
Remember, there are I think now 6M cases of Covid in the US
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I must have a reading comprehension problem. The 161k+ "Total covid-19 deaths" field on the CDC table is explained as "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1 ". I didn't realize that it means covid-19 was the primary cause.
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Just remember people it is super important to listen the experts...
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No worries. It's just doctor-speak with for "we believe they died of COVID-19."
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Regular people are not allowed to visit any salons...
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Wake up people. The people and experts who are saying how dangerous this thing is don't even believe it.
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Dangerously false statement.
I personally know over a dozen doctors (from both parties, and some international ones) and all are highly concerned about COVID-19. It's a dangerous disease; even if you don't die from it you may have lasting complications.
I'll say though that Pelosi should have checked into the rules better instead of relying on being told "one customer at a time inside was ok." On the other hand, Trump is killing us by the thousands each week by his reckless downplaying of the crisis.
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I agree. It does seem to be dangerous to elderly and people with underlying medical conditions. People should be allowed to stay at home if they want. Moving the goal posts is the truly dangerous thing. I thought we were shutting down to flatten the curve. When will that be?
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California officials announced today, 1 day after pelosi illegally gets her own salon haircut, that salons can now open to 25% of capacity.
"Hey look man, she was only one day ahead! Come on man."
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All I know for certain is that I've been pretty much home bound since March, have been self medicating with Knob Creek Single Barrel and Basil Haydens that whole time and have yet to contract the virus.
Coincidence? I think not.
My money's on preventative Bourbon therapy
Coincidence? I think not.
My money's on preventative Bourbon therapy
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They should just change their name to Walmart or Trader Joe's or something, then they can operate at 100% capacity 
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I've been everywhere and I haven't gotten it. Or maybe I have and didn't know it. Or maybe I just haven't had enough tests.
Edit: I have had a few more encounters with Jack and Jim than usual. Maybe @bigredfish is onto something here.
Edit: I have had a few more encounters with Jack and Jim than usual. Maybe @bigredfish is onto something here.
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The salon owner who released this footage should get a huge Thank You!, from ever salon owner and stylist in the country, or at least California, who are/were out of work until this video was released. The Dems in California wanted to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible so they immediately eased restrictions in less than 24hrs, and I am sure other Dem controlled cities will be too because of pelosi's hypocritic actions.
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What those numbers from the CDC seem indicate to me is that IF you have no comorbidity problems the CCP Virus death rate, as a single cause of death, is about 1%. IF you have at least one comorbidity the death rate is about 3%. Problem we have, here in the US, is that so many people are obese, or at least well overweight, and have multiple comorbidities as a result of that, hence the higher death rate here. Those percentages are based on the total number of cases and the number of deaths. 6,000 deaths attributed to the CCP Virus alone, 185,000 total deaths and 6,088,000 total confirmed cases.
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Interesting. I will look into this this weekend if I get a chance and can find the data. I think a better way to do it would be to use comorbidity data for cases and match that up with deaths by same comorbidity set. I don't think the data exist in a collared form for just cases though.
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I was just looking at the "gross" numbers to see how the two situations compared. A quick look seems to show age and pulmonary are probably the two biggest problems and throw in diabetes. Heart/blood pressure are also major contributors, but the overall numbers are what interests me the most.
In fact, I didn't deduct the 6.000 CCP Virus only cases from the total number when calculating so they may be off just a tenth of a percent or so.
In fact, I didn't deduct the 6.000 CCP Virus only cases from the total number when calculating so they may be off just a tenth of a percent or so.