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How an activist's self-immolation exposed the dark reality of climate lies
compared to the title in the below article...
www.msnbc.com

Self-immolation at Supreme Court exposes dark reality of 'climate grief'

Wynn Bruce died after setting himself on fire in front of the Supreme Court. It prompted discussions about the mental toll of climate change.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

reminder, we are now 1/4 of the way into the prediction…
 
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Cuba is the "most equal multiracial county" due to socialism.
Millions of Americans ‘don’t mind’ open racism
‘Going out to eat is not a Constitutional right’
There is a difference between ‘racially Black’ and ‘politically Black’
World War II bomb was dropped ‘because they’d spent all this money developing it’
Destroying property ‘is not violence’
'Tipping is a legacy of slavery'
The Civil War began in 1865
Fireworks were used to disrupt Black Lives Matter movement
Europe is ‘not a continent,’ Ukraine alarm is a racist ‘dog whistle’

We need to wrap her in an American Flag and drop her in Taliban Territory. Just a thought.
 
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I'll repost my conversation from another forum-

Me- "As any good progressive knows, progress isn't made playing it safe, but coming up with a ton of bad ideas and seeing which ones are worthwhile."

Marxist- "Define progressive, and progress."

Me- "Before I look it up, I'll give my best definition.

Progressive- One who is more disposed to adopting change and exploring different problem solving strategies. Less inclined toward tradition, sacredness, or conventional methods.
Progress- The evolutionary improvement of a system or thing. A defined improvement over the preceding method or object.

Now the dictionary.

Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods,
Progress- movement to an improved or more developed state, or to a forward position

I consider myself progressive, just not of the politically tribal kind. You know, the kind that takes the very failed Critical Theory framework and attempts to shoehorn other pop-ideologies into it, foregoing reason, logic, truth and reality as needed to make it fit. The type that continually confuse the exception for the rule."

So, that's a long-winded way to say that I am taking back the meaning of progressive. "Progressives" have been deconstructing the meaning of words, and the conservative in me is going to defend them. I label myself as progressive and them as regressive. I label myself as anti-racist and them as racists. People shouldn't even have to say "classical liberal", but should just be able to say liberal. So-called liberals today are anti-liberal. I'm not going to run away from certain words just because a few loud idiots hijacked them.
 
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redpoint5 said:
I'll repost my conversation from another forum-

Me- "As any good progressive knows, progress isn't made playing it safe, but coming up with a ton of bad ideas and seeing which ones are worthwhile."

Marxist- "Define progressive, and progress."

Me- "Before I look it up, I'll give my best definition.

Progressive- One who is more disposed to adopting change and exploring different problem solving strategies. Less inclined toward tradition, sacredness, or conventional methods.
Progress- The evolutionary improvement of a system or thing. A defined improvement over the preceding method or object.

Now the dictionary.

Progressive- making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods,
Progress- movement to an improved or more developed state, or to a forward position

I consider myself progressive, just not of the politically tribal kind. You know, the kind that takes the very failed Critical Theory framework and attempts to shoehorn other pop-ideologies into it, foregoing reason, logic, truth and reality as needed to make it fit. The type that continually confuse the exception for the rule."

So, that's a long-winded way to say that I am taking back the meaning of progressive. "Progressives" have been deconstructing the meaning of words, and the conservative in me is going to defend them. I label myself as progressive and them as regressive. I label myself as anti-racist and them as racists. People shouldn't even have to say "classical liberal", but should just be able to say liberal. So-called liberals today are anti-liberal. I'm not going to run away from certain words just because a few loud idiots hijacked them.
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The group we often call "progressives" in the USA often are regressive in many ways .. and imho not progressive if they are moving us into authoritarian patterns which have been tried over and over again in history and proven to be bad for those who enjoy freedoms...

imho your definition is proper on progressive ..
 
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mat200 said:
The group we often call "progressives" in the USA often are regressive in many ways .. and imho not progressive if they are moving us into authoritarian patterns which have been tried over and over again in history and proven to be bad for those who enjoy freedoms...
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I'm saying this on an EV forum of all places, so I'm trying to be provocative without being overly antagonistic towards leftists. Somehow I haven't been cancelled.

There's a difference between the definition of progressive, and the political tribe known as Progressives. I tend to be very open to considering new ideas (progressive), but expect them to be worse than existing (conservative) because there's a reason why things exist as they are, and usually it's because it works well and withstood the test of time.

Same deal with the difference between science, and The Science. One is a process to make increasingly accurate predictions about cause/effect, and the other is political ideology dressed in the clothes of reason.

So a true progressive would utilize the scientific method to move towards progress, while a Progressive would regurgitate political dogma and call it The Science.

I say this because sometimes conservatives reflexively take the opposite stance of Progressives just to be antagonistic and distance themselves from the ideology. A better strategy might be to reclaim the meaning of things rather than allow leftists to define everything.
 
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redpoint5 said:
I'm saying this on an EV forum of all places, so I'm trying to be provocative without being overly antagonistic towards leftists. Somehow I haven't been cancelled.

There's a difference between the definition of progressive, and the political tribe known as Progressives. I tend to be very open to considering new ideas (progressive), but expect them to be worse than existing (conservative) because there's a reason why things exist as they are, and usually it's because it works well and withstood the test of time.

Same deal with the difference between science, and The Science. One is a process to make increasingly accurate predictions about cause/effect, and the other is political ideology dressed in the clothes of reason.

So a true progressive would utilize the scientific method to move towards progress, while a Progressive would regurgitate political dogma and call it The Science.

I say this because sometimes conservatives reflexively take the opposite stance of Progressives just to be antagonistic and distance themselves from the ideology. A better strategy might be to reclaim the meaning of things rather than allow leftists to define everything.
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Indeed .. it is all getting 1984ish .. where words mean the opposite ..
 
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SJGUSMC21 said:
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Cuba is the "most equal multiracial county" due to socialism.
Millions of Americans ‘don’t mind’ open racism
‘Going out to eat is not a Constitutional right’
There is a difference between ‘racially Black’ and ‘politically Black’
World War II bomb was dropped ‘because they’d spent all this money developing it’
Destroying property ‘is not violence’
'Tipping is a legacy of slavery'
The Civil War began in 1865
Fireworks were used to disrupt Black Lives Matter movement
Europe is ‘not a continent,’ Ukraine alarm is a racist ‘dog whistle’

We need to wrap her in an American Flag and drop her in Taliban Territory. Just a thought.
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You mean, we have to stop tipping immediately?
 
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