Recording from cameras

[spears and repairs]

Thanks for the links!
So it records anolog then it transfers to didgital hence the HDD
Think I can do better on the prcies of HDD though

It says its an 8 channel, well I only need 2. Are there cheaper boxes out there with less channels?

Has anyone done any maths hear on the kind of data storage needed for say 7 days/ 30 days footage for say one camera?

And what kind of cable is best? Do the boxes all use phono fittings?

Thanks

 

[TonyR]

Thanks for the links!
So it records anolog then it transfers to didgital hence the HDD
Think I can do better on the prcies of HDD though

Just make sure the HDD is surveillance-rated, not a standard desktop PC HDD.

It says its an 8 channel, well I only need 2. Are there cheaper boxes out there with less channels?

There are 4 channel but barely a bit more for 8 (because they are more popular),

Has anyone done any maths hear on the kind of data storage needed for say 7 days/ 30 days footage for say one camera?

Here's a calculator ==>> Calculating Required Hard Drive Size

And what kind of cable is best? Do the boxes all use phono fittings?

An analog input into the DVR will be BNC connectors, as analog cams use twin cables with BNC connectors, not RCA (phono jacks/plugs): BNC for the video and one for 12VDC (as mentioned in my post #38).

Often there is audio in and out from female RCA jacks and usually a female RCA jack for composite (analog) video out.

 

[spears and repairs]

Just make sure the HDD is surveillance-rated, not a standard desktop PC HDD.

I dont know what surveillance-rated is?

 

[spears and repairs]

Here's a calculator ==>> Calculating Required Hard Drive Size

I see that but what kind of resolution and Equivalent Bitrate (Mbps) should I aim for? and what is FPS?

 

[TonyR]

I see that but what kind of resolution and Equivalent Bitrate (Mbps) should I aim for? and what is FPS?

My bad, that one is geared more toward IP cams. Try this one for analog cams==>> Surveillance Storage Capacity Estimator Tool

Select 'H.264" and choose "15" for the FPS (Frames Per Second), which is also called "Frame Rate".

 

[TonyR]

I dont know what surveillance-rated is?

Wow....Have you spent ANY time reading the Cliff Notes in the IPCT Wiki ?
Then buy the one I suggested. A Western Digital "Purple" series or Seagate "SkyHawk" series are both rated for surveillance.
A HDD that must record surveillance video is designed for constant write duty and lesser read duty and 24/7/365 operation.

 

[spears and repairs]

My bad, that one is geared more toward IP cams. Try this one for analog cams==>> Surveillance Storage Capacity Estimator Tool

Select 'H.264" and choose "15" for the FPS (Frames Per Second), which is also called "Frame Rate".

OK; not being a video teck man myself; I have to ask you
What kind of video format I will be running
What kind of resolution I will need
Frame activity
And what is scence activity?
Thanks

 

[spears and repairs]

Wow....Have you spent ANY time reading the Cliff Notes in the IPCT Wiki ?
Then buy the one I suggested. A Western Digital "Purple" series or Seagate "Nighthawk" series are both rated for surveillance.
A HDD that must record surveillance video is designed for constant write duty and lesser read duty and 24/7/365 operation.

sorry dont understand any of that

 

[TonyR]

sorry dont understand any of that

Did you understand my question?......

"Have you spent ANY time reading the Cliff Notes in the IPCT Wiki ?"​

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I don't mind trying to help you, but you've GOT to try and help yourself here...a LOT more. Otherwise, I highly suggest again as in my post #40 that you purchase a unit with a 1TB hard drive already installed ==>> ANNKE CCTV Surveillance DVR with Hard Drive 1 TB, 8 Channel 5MP Lite H.265+ DVR Video Recorder for CCTV/Analog/AHD/TVI/IP Cameras, Human/Vehicle Detection, Remote Access, Alarm Email with Pictures

The 1TB will store the video from 2 each, 2.0 megapixel cameras (1080P resolution) running at 12 FPS (Frames Per Second), constant 24x7x365 recording, H.264 format at highest quality for 10 days. If that does not suit your needs then YOU can fill in the blanks in the calculator with changes to MY numbers with your own for more cameras or to store more video for a longer period and find out the recommended hard drive size. Then YOU can buy the HDD and put it in, I've already suggested the correct type for surveillance video recording.

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[looney2ns]

It's time to learn a new skill or three.

 

[wittaj]

Or hire it out at this point. Or just get a true off the shelf package camera and DVR.

 

[looney2ns]

Nightowl comes to mind.

 

[alastairstevenson]

Trolling / winding up springs to mind.

 

[TonyR]

Trolling / winding up springs to mind.

You could be right...either way, stick a fork in me, I'm done.

 

[TonyR]

Or hire it out at this point. Or just get a true off the shelf package camera and DVR.

As has been suggested more than once.....I'm out!

 

[spears and repairs]

Did you understand my question?......

"Have you spent ANY time reading the Cliff Notes in the IPCT Wiki ?"​

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I don't mind trying to help you, but you've GOT to try and help yourself here...a LOT more. Otherwise, I highly suggest again as in my post #40 that you purchase a unit with a 1TB hard drive already installed ==>> ANNKE CCTV Surveillance DVR with Hard Drive 1 TB, 8 Channel 5MP Lite H.265+ DVR Video Recorder for CCTV/Analog/AHD/TVI/IP Cameras, Human/Vehicle Detection, Remote Access, Alarm Email with Pictures

The 1TB will store the video from 2 each, 2.0 megapixel cameras (1080P resolution) running at 12 FPS (Frames Per Second), constant 24x7x365 recording, H.264 format at highest quality for 10 days. If that does not suit your needs then YOU can fill in the blanks in the calculator with changes to MY numbers with your own for more cameras or to store more video for a longer period and find out the recommended hard drive size. Then YOU can buy the HDD and put it in, I've already suggested the correct type for surveillance video recording

considering I have about 30 cameras laying around hear; I think I'll go with the all in one box as its becoming to complicated to build the system for me. Even plugging a standard sata HDD into the box wont even work!

 

[CCTVCam]

As far as I am aware I have a picture on my TV from the coax cable, so if I had a video cassette recorder then Im sure it would be as easy as that, I dont see a proper recoding box being any different

Video casettes are obsolete. They're low quality SD not high quality HD and unless you want to stand there 24/7 changing the tape every 60 minutes, they're not practical either.

As others have said, you need to get someone to come and do an install. They can probably install your existing indoor camera for you. Just google or use the phone book to find a reputable CCTV dealer or installer who will cover your area and ask them to do it. Not sure what they charge, but it will be worth it and your only option if you cannot do it yourself.

Beyond that, there's nothing more anyone can do here.

 

[spears and repairs]

I actully came back today to delete this entire thread but since as you have posted hear, I have decided not to

As others have said, you need to get someone to come and do an install. They can probably install your existing indoor camera for you. Just google or use the phone book to find a reputable CCTV dealer or installer who will cover your area and ask them to do it. Not sure what they charge, but it will be worth it and your only option if you cannot do it yourself.

Sorry I though the idea of getting someone in to install it was refering to rigging the cameras up to a computer and recording from cameras internal SD card. Surly rigging the cameras up to the recording box in not much more then rigging it up to an old tape recorder

 

[wittaj]

Go to the local hardware store or online and as someone said buy a Night Owl system (buy a kit that comes with the number of cameras you need along with the recording box) and it is about as plug-n-play as you get. Run the wires, hang up the cameras, plug them into the recording box and plug it in and you are off to the races. Quality won't be as good, but if in a store with bright lights it will be better than nothing.

 

[spears and repairs]

Go to the local hardware store or online and as someone said buy a Night Owl system (buy a kit that comes with the number of cameras you need along with the recording box) and it is about as plug-n-play as you get. Run the wires, hang up the cameras, plug them into the recording box and plug it in and you are off to the races. Quality won't be as good, but if in a store with bright lights it will be better than nothing.

Speaking of which; I found this box as part of the clear out
It looks like a home security record system; Any good?