REVIEW: Budget 4MP Turret Comparison - IPC-T2431T-AS vs Chinese HDW4433C-A

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Good review - I personally have installed over 100 of the 4433's now. Over the past 4 years i've only had 1 of them go bad. Im super impressed with the quality of the 4433 for only $55
 

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So as suggested I think I'll buy one IPC-T2431T-AS and use it to work out what FoV I need.

Then hopefully the 3.6 will be enough, other wise will have to look around a bit more (these don't come in a 6mm?)
 

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I am curious to see if these could be used successfully as LPR cams if using the 3.6
I have a good location right at the curb and this price would make me feel better about getting the 2 cams I want out there.
 

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I am curious to see if these could be used successfully as LPR cams if using the 3.6
I have a good location right at the curb and this price would make me feel better about getting the 2 cams I want out there.
Absolutely no - not a chance. You will want something with a longer focal length
 
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Actually for just a few dollars more I found the T2431T-AS to be a better camera.
$35 per camera more isn't just a few dollars more when you start putting multiple cameras into a project. I am absolutely not against using better cameras - I do it all the time. But sometimes the additional cost isn't worth the money.
 

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$35 per?? I belive you can get a better deal on them than that. specially if you order a larger quanity.
 

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Its much better camera in total darkness...

 

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Absolutely no - not a chance. You will want something with a longer focal length
Oh, jeez, I left out that I was referring to using the 2431 cams as LPR's and not the 4433's.
So I am comparing $85ea vs. $130ea for some 2231's that I had previously considered.
So far I have not seen an mention of the 2431's in the LPR forum either.
Thanks for any additional input.
 
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I think one major difference that the OP left out was the built in SD card slot. This is my whole decision for using this camera over the 4433. I think that alone is worth the price difference since I've maxed out my NVR and for my purpose this one can be a standalone camera.

I feel like that should be updated in the initial post.

edit: What is the correct wall mount to be used for this camera? Will the PFB-203W work?
 

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I can verify it lines up with the PFA130-E. I got some for my landlord for a low-budget setup for one of his apartment properties. Here's a sample view looking down on a relatively dim scene. Light is from cloud cover over an urban area, with light at the right coming from one light bulb about 5 meters above the ground on a porch.

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The 6144kbit/sec maximum bitrate is a little restrictive, BUT if you can run H265, you can still use 6144kbit/sec while getting better compression. So that's what I would recommend if you are noticing moving objects trailed by a wake of compression noise (and have H265 as an option). For a Blue Iris user, you could have BI use software decoding instead of QuickSync, or use nVidia NVDEC if you have a suitable nVidia card.

The model above is the 2.8mm lens and it is about 10 meters above ground level. This is not its final destination, I just tacked it up there to get a feel for its FOV before we install them at the actual location.

Below is a photo of people at a walking pace in overcast daylight. This isn't what the average IPCT member would approve of, but the landlord's objective is mainly to be able to tell what the known residents are doing, not to identify prowlers and intruders, so an overhead view that can basically confirm his suspicions will be adequate to start with. Whose car is this, it's not a resident but it's here a lot... who is making a mess by the dumpster.... that type of thing.

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Do “most” Dahua models line up with the PFA130-E?
If you're not sure it'll tell you on the Dahua website, just click "Accessories" for whatever camera you're looking at.

I also got 3.6mm 2431T-AS from Andy's Amazon store and while I haven't installed it yet I'm really impressed with the tests I've done so far. Great daytime quality which is my main need but for the relatively small area I'm monitoring it's all I need at night as well. At this price point for the quality I don't think you can justify getting anything less capable, and I know buying direct is even cheaper but I needed mine ASAP and the Amazon return policy is good for peace of mind.

I'd totally start with these using just SD cards before buying dedicated NVR hardware or a surveillance PC if money was tight.
 
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