Review-I'll be the guinea pig for the new SD59225U-HNI PTZ.

[Solar Deity]

What I am looking to do, is have preset 1 be the Home. If something triggers the camera to another preset, being an alarm activation, another camera, etc, and there is no other trigger for the set time, then it will go back to preset 1. As I stated, my SD49225T-HN does that and works as intended.

I had mine working the exact way you describe. My current timing problem is this was on a test setup, and I am halfway through setting it up at the customers location. It will not be until tomorrow when I can get there to finish.

I can assure you that I had it working with two PIR's exactly as you stated above.

SD

 

[cryptelli]

What I am looking to do, is have preset 1 be the Home. If something triggers the camera to another preset, being an alarm activation, another camera, etc, and there is no other trigger for the set time, then it will go back to preset 1.

I get that. Have you actually connected something to the alarm input or tried using another camera to trigger the preset and test it returns to your 'home' preset after the time you set? I can only think it's the only way it will return as @Solar Deity has been successful.

 

[ChooChooman74]

I had mine working the exact way you describe. My current timing problem is this was on a test setup, and I am halfway through setting it up at the customers location. It will not be until tomorrow when I can get there to finish.

I can assure you that I had it working with two PIR's exactly as you stated above.

SD

I get that. Have you actually connected something to the alarm input or tried using another camera to trigger the preset and test it returns to your 'home' preset after the time you set? I can only think it's the only way it will return as @Solar Deity has been successful.

Yes, I am still on a test setup myself, making sure I can get the system to do what is wanted. I was having one camera's motion trigger a preset on the PTZ to zoom in at a different angle. I have not tried alarm contacts yet, either to the NVR's or to the camera's alarm inputs, but I can try that Sunday.

 

[beingaware]

Thanks beingaware - and as stated I know now why SmartPSS would not work on Live View and I will go get some sleep and chat later bro.
Again many thanks for this I really appreciate your help.

Frank the 8mp surprised me how good the image was. Purchased ONLY for daytime footage really as the 2mp could not capture car plates where the 8mp does on the road outside.

Well we got some more improvements on ljw2k's camera.

Setup day and night profiles with auto switch over.

Adjusted the Camera to prioritise the Aperture.
Set the auto focus to full auto mode.
Cranked up the brightness, flattened the contrast.

Adjusted the WDR to balance iso noise vs clarity.

Set the Smart IR to 50%

Adjusted the encoding as well.

Picture looks a million times better and auto focus is much faster as well.
Still a few spots that it freaks out in but further adjustments should fix that.

Also setup auto tracking and showed ljw2k how to adjust/set the IVS trips.

We are slowly getting there.

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Well we got some more improvements on ljw2k's camera.

Setup day and night profiles with auto switch over.

Adjusted the Camera to prioritise the Aperture.
Set the auto focus to full auto mode.
Cranked up the brightness, flattened the contrast.

Adjusted the WDR to balance iso noise vs clarity.

Set the Smart IR to 50%

Adjusted the encoding as well.

Picture looks a million times better and auto focus is much faster as well.
Still a few spots that it freaks out in but further adjustments should fix that.

Also setup auto tracking and showed ljw2k how to adjust/set the IVS trips.

We are slowly getting there.

Hi @beingaware @ljw2k can you be more explicit about the settings that made such improvement? I mean, to which values did you crank up the balance and flattened the contrast? And how did you set the aperture priority and WDR balance iso/clarity? Perhaps @ljw2k can provide some screenshots? I hope it's not too much to ask.

 

[beingaware]

Hi @beingaware @ljw2k can you be more explicit about the settings that made such improvement? I mean, to which values did you crank up the balance and flattened the contrast? And how did you set the aperture priority and WDR balance iso/clarity? Perhaps @ljw2k can provide some screenshots? I hope it's not too much to ask.

These are location dependant but should give you a good idea the areas you need to mess with.

 

[beingaware]

For a laugh, I tried Colour Mode at night just to see if it had similar issues as @ljw2k camera.
With WDR on it certainly ghosted, with the camera at stock settings it struggled but once the profiles were configured... it handled it for the most part.

Looks nice but I feel like it's missing detail due to ISO noise

Ran it through some targets and locations that are extremely tough on PTZ auto focus and light exposure but it seems to have passed.
Remember auto focus needs sharp lines to focus in on...



And we also have next door throwing a party for their 18yo son.
Was having a listen in, seems like this girl is his side chick who was avoiding his girl friend.
What dramatic lives teenagers lead.

Moved the PTZ around as much as I could to see if they could hear it or perceive it moving, for the most part I don't think they did.

 

[looney2ns]

What I am looking to do, is have preset 1 be the Home. If something triggers the camera to another preset, being an alarm activation, another camera, etc, and there is no other trigger for the set time, then it will go back to preset 1. As I stated, my SD49225T-HN does that and works as intended.

This works correctly for me.

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Here is some daytime footage from my PTZ:





And this is from my Hikvision Darkfighter:



Tonight I will get some nighttime footage in colour and B&W.

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Here 3 nighttime shots. First in colour and then 2 in B&W. I am not really happy with the quality. Focussing takes forever and when it finally gets a focus lock, the object/subject has already disappeared. Also i find the B&W not much better than the colour footage. Or is it just me thinking that? I'm hoping for some constructive suggestions.

 

[nayr]

B&W Definitely looks better.. I think most of your pains w/focus is all your targets are rapidly moving directly away from you and its constantly changing distance and fucking with it.

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Focus does take a long time and I think this could be improved with a firmware update?

I'm already at the latest version, i think. Or is there a newer version available somewhere?

 

[Shockwave199]

Your auto focus speed whacked. That's totally defeating the purpose of having a ptz.

 

[beingaware]

Your auto focus speed whacked. That's totally defeating the purpose of having a ptz.

Was going to say that, wonder if re-loading the firmware to an older one and going back forward again would help him...?

 

[beingaware]

I left mine on colour last night just to see if I could replicate @ljw2k issue with blur when it's tracking people.

Thankfully Jay was heading to work at 3am which gave me a perfect target for the auto tracking to chase.

As you can see, it's not where near as good for ID as B&W. haha

This is why you should always run B&W at night.

 

[beingaware]

Here is a clip I just took of some rats eyeing cars up but when I try to focus and zoom in it just can not cope even though settings have been set. The camera works fine during daytime but shite at night for capturing anything that's moving.

My Huisun would have captured these faces perfect when zoomed in but this camera does not seam to work very well at all after dusk which is a little ironic as it's suppose to be good at night time.

It just does not focus fast enough takes about 10 seconds then the subject is out the frame and when you try lock on again it's out of focus again and so on.

That looks like there is a lot of video processing going on.
Tell tail signs are the ghosting.

Adjust the contrast a little more to get more defined edges which will help the auto focus.

@nayr you would know, do the Pro series use AF beams to assist with focusing or do they use the IR light to assist?

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Done some focus Videos in B&W and colour and found it does not focus proper after around 8x zoom but if I manually do the focus it gets it spot on. Colour did focus slightly better then B&W in the test I did.

Both was tried on settings Semi Focus and fully auto.

Same experience here. I tried also all possible setting variations, but i come to the conclusion that in my situation colour focusses faster than B&W. And also after 8-10x zoom it really starts falling back and it's struggling to focus on anything. At higher than 20x zoom it doesn't focus at all during nighttime (both on colour and B&W).

 

[Frank van der Heide]

Adjust the contrast a little more to get more defined edges which will help the auto focus.

@beingaware How much would you suggest to set the contrast? I have mine set to 55. Should i go higher to help the autofocus?

 

[beingaware]

@beingaware How much would you suggest to set the contrast? I have mine set to 55. Should i go higher to help the autofocus?

Just play with it man, thats what I've had to do to get mine to behave.

If the image is too flat, auto tracking goes retarded, but the video quality is higher BUT the auto focus struggles, but when its more defined with darkness, it also has issues, so it's a balancing act.

Pick on a few different locations with defined lines or edges and test, I used the fence across the road to adjust mine.

 

[reeves1985]

I still have mine rigged up in testing state as I haven't had time to mount it yet. But with my limited testing and the fact it's indoors and I can't zoom that far I don't seem to have any issues.

How many people are actually having issues?

I know @ljw2k has been having issues and he too has been comparing like me with the huisun which many are now discarding as rubbish.

I can see massive benefits in image quality especially at night but if that's the only benefit due to buggy software and what seems like poor quality control. What's the benefit of paying a fair chunk of price over a fixed camera.

Heck even the huisun seems to be doing a better job at focusing according to a few people. Surely this can't be right.

Is it something @EMPIRETECANDY can jump in and get direct to dahua about?

But like I say my cam is still on the bench in test as I haven't mounted yet but I don't seem to be having the problems others are.