Sweet! LTS is releasing an ONVIF compatible doorbell with SD card slot and 940nm IR

Thanks for sharing. There aren't many options available for us on this forum. We all have requirements that the mainstream doorbell products don't support. I like their response so far.

edit: Did you get that response from HSN or samsung support? I'd be shocked if that was HSN. Didn't think they would have specific technical knowledge like that...


bigredaggie said:
Wrong thread for this I know, but thought I'd share this response from Samsung about their new doorbell cam. Not ONVIF, but sounds like pulling the RTSP stream to Blue Iris would be doable. I might try it once it's available on Amazon- I've never bought from HSN before. At least they were able to provide the path...

"The D1 doorbell cannot be accessed via a web browser and it is not ONVIF compliant. In order to access the camera you must use the Wisenet SmartCam+ app or capture a direct RTSP stream with one of the strings listed below.

rtsp://admin:<camera password>@<camera ip>/profile5/media.smp
/profile4/media.smp
/profile3/media.smp
/profile2/media.smp
/profile1/media.smp"
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lagvoid said:
Thanks for sharing. There aren't many options available for us on this forum. We all have requirements that the mainstream doorbell products don't support. I like their response so far.

edit: Did you get that response from HSN or samsung support? I'd be shocked if that was HSN. Didn't think they would have specific technical knowledge like that...
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Samsung - responded in like two hours on Sat. Still very little info out on it but you can find a little more by searching for Wisenet or Hanwha Techwin. Looks like Sams has it on their website as part of a bundle with other Samsung cameras.

Some YouTube videos on features and installation showing up:
SmartCam D1 Video Doorbell - YouTube
 
I just sent my list of complaints/shortcomings with the LTS doobell camera to the dealer who sold it to me. I'm keeping the camera, because it does work. It's just very disappointing to pay $169 for something and receive such an obviously unpolished/incomplete product. A Dahua mini-wedge Starlight camera over the door would have been $50 less expensive.
 
Have you tried out the two way comms yet? Not my primary reason for buying but just wondering - can you have a clear conversation with somebody? Is the doorbell microphone and speaker adequate? Is it laggy/delayed?
 
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Have you tried out the two way comms yet? Not my primary reason for buying but just wondering - can you have a clear conversation with somebody? Is the doorbell microphone and speaker adequate? Is it laggy/delayed?
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I would like to have tested it with my wife, but she and I were both rather busy all day yesterday. I might be able to get her to test it, tonight.
 
Just finished speaking with my dealer. He passed my critique from this morning on to LTS Support, and noted it for his own reference. I'm sending him an e-mail with the low-quality images and high-quality images attached, so he can get an understanding of the IR problems.
 
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VorlonFrog said:
Just finished speaking with my dealer. He passed my critique from this morning on to LTS Support, and noted it for his own reference. I'm sending him an e-mail with the low-quality images and high-quality images attached, so he can get an understanding of the IR problems.
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Thanks again Vorlon. Your testing has saved us from a lot of headache. If they just enabled the web interface and fixed the lens glare, I'd probably give it a try.

Now it seems I'm waiting to learn more about that Samsung doorbell or fall back to doorbird's expensive clunker. Do you have any plans to test any other doorbell cams?
 
lagvoid said:
Thanks again Vorlon. Your testing has saved us from a lot of headache. If they just enabled the web interface and fixed the lens glare, I'd probably give it a try.

Now it seems I'm waiting to learn more about that Samsung doorbell or fall back to doorbird's expensive clunker. Do you have any plans to test any other doorbell cams?
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No, no plans to try any others. This one works over wifi with Blue Iris and from the doorbell power supply, and those were my minimum requirements. I think it will be interesting to see if LTS and/or Hikvision make any improvements in the near future. I'm not expecting it, to be honest. But if they want to sell these things in any kind of quantity, they REALLY need to make improvements. The 6 FPS frame rate is laughable. The IR flare is awful. The low-quality stream is worse than an ancient 300K pixel Foscam clone from over ten years ago.
 
I completely agree with your points. I would probably keep it too if I was in your shoes having already bought and installed. Such a shame.
 
lagvoid said:
I completely agree with your points. I would probably keep it too if I was in your shoes having already bought and installed. Such a shame.
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I've been digging through the doorbell firmware file this morning, and it appears to be mostly one or two completely self-contained binary executable files. I still need to dig more, but there's no sign of any lua/nginx/httpd or any other web server. :(
 
The firmware is structured in the same way as that for the NVRs - it's quite different from the usual camera firmware structure.
In the NVR firmware, there is no separate webserver app such as boa, as can be seen in non-Hikvision firmware.
All the web interaction is done in the primary app hicore, supported by a large installable library of kernel modules.
But to peak inside, we'd need the encryption key, which is different from that used in the NVR firmware
 
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Just wondering...for the night vision, did you take the plastic wrap thing off the IR ring? (the black ring around the camera, not the camera itself) I didn't even notice it at first and got a similar night picture as you, but after removing it the picture cleared up alot more, with usable night image (still some IR glare though)...it is not obvious at all, i used my fingernails to pick at it to get it off.

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Fruit said:
Just wondering...for the night vision, did you take the plastic wrap thing off the IR ring? (the black ring around the camera, not the camera itself) I didn't even notice it at first and got a similar night picture as you, but after removing it the picture cleared up alot more, with usable night image (still some IR glare though)...it is not obvious at all, i used my fingernails to pick at it to get it off.

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Can you share a night IR high res screen shot? What's your experience been with it's functionality?
 
I definitely removed both of the vinyl protective films, from the lens and from the IR LED ring. Still a LOT of IR flare top and bottom.


I legitimately used the doorbell this evening. Someone pushed the button, and it took several seconds for the app to open and connect after I swiped. I was able to hold a conversation with them, and politely declined their visit. The nicest thing was, not having to open the front door to unknown people, at all.
 
lagvoid said:
Thanks again vorlon. Glad it works well for its intended purpose. I was hoping fruit would post a screen shot of his camera. Maybe your camera is defective or more so than fruit's.
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If I could see a quality shot from a similar Hikvision/LTS/Clare camera that doesn't have the IR flare, I'd be amazed, frankly.
 
Here's mine, i actually didn't install it yet...I notice you have to keep it spotless to get the best picture. (cleaned it with an alcohol wipe)
 

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