Griswalduk
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Absolutely sickening. This is treatment reminiscent of Auschwitz. Looks like Nazism is indeed alive and well and flourishing in Russia.
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I am not surprised. But the old saying, 'War's hell' still holds true unfortunately. I am sure Russian's lead in the percentage of war crimes by a long margin, but would bet both sides are guilty to a point. But, please refer to this statement:
NONE OF THIS HAD TO HAPPEN, PUTIN, YOU SOB!
Griswalduk
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Although I'm truely sickened it might be time for restraint. As explanation to my reasoning I offer the event linked below.
On 15 April 1945, Major John Tonkin led a squadron of SAS soldiers through the gates of Bergen-Belsen – the first Allied troops to enter the notorious Nazi concentration camp. What he saw there haunted him for life, a hellish vision of man’s inhumanity to man.
“There is no way of describing the horror of that camp. It was totally unbelievable,” said Tonkin, in a tape recording made nearly 40 years later that will be broadcast for the first time in my BBC series about the wartime SAS.
The SAS troop was confronted by what he called “30,000 walking skeletons”. The bodies of prisoners lay scattered around the compound and piled into mass graves. The stench of death hung in the air. But the SS guards, either unconcerned or unaware that the SAS was now inside the camp, continued Nazi business as usual. “They were, just for fun, taking pot shots at the prisoners and nobody was paying any attention. I have never been so angry in my life.”
Tonkin had already experienced the darkest side of war: he had been captured, escaped and narrowly cheated death behind the lines in France when 31 men under his command were caught and executed without trial. He had killed often in battle, without remorse. He was still only 25 years old. It would have been understandable if Tonkin, in his fury, had unleashed the SAS to massacre every SS guard in Belsen.
But he did not. Instead of exacting bloody revenge, Tonkin chose another path. “I got hold of all these SS officers. We lined them up and I said: ‘Unless that shooting stops immediately, you are all going to die very horribly.’ They went out immediately and the shooting stopped.”
Tonkin saved the lives of many inmates that day; but he also spared their SS tormenters from summary reprisal. It was a rare moment of clemency in the midst of a brutal war, but also symbolic of the wartime SAS itself: highly trained, unconventional, ruthless when necessary, but also highly intelligent, adaptable to circumstance, capable of sensitivity and humanity as well as extreme violence.
Major John Tonkin recorded his experiences on tape in the hope we would learn and this would never ever happen again. Sadly it looks like his voice cannot be heard in Russia
Associated documentary. Major Tonkin telling the horrors can heard approx 50 mins in.
On 15 April 1945, Major John Tonkin led a squadron of SAS soldiers through the gates of Bergen-Belsen – the first Allied troops to enter the notorious Nazi concentration camp. What he saw there haunted him for life, a hellish vision of man’s inhumanity to man.
“There is no way of describing the horror of that camp. It was totally unbelievable,” said Tonkin, in a tape recording made nearly 40 years later that will be broadcast for the first time in my BBC series about the wartime SAS.
The SAS troop was confronted by what he called “30,000 walking skeletons”. The bodies of prisoners lay scattered around the compound and piled into mass graves. The stench of death hung in the air. But the SS guards, either unconcerned or unaware that the SAS was now inside the camp, continued Nazi business as usual. “They were, just for fun, taking pot shots at the prisoners and nobody was paying any attention. I have never been so angry in my life.”
Tonkin had already experienced the darkest side of war: he had been captured, escaped and narrowly cheated death behind the lines in France when 31 men under his command were caught and executed without trial. He had killed often in battle, without remorse. He was still only 25 years old. It would have been understandable if Tonkin, in his fury, had unleashed the SAS to massacre every SS guard in Belsen.
But he did not. Instead of exacting bloody revenge, Tonkin chose another path. “I got hold of all these SS officers. We lined them up and I said: ‘Unless that shooting stops immediately, you are all going to die very horribly.’ They went out immediately and the shooting stopped.”
Tonkin saved the lives of many inmates that day; but he also spared their SS tormenters from summary reprisal. It was a rare moment of clemency in the midst of a brutal war, but also symbolic of the wartime SAS itself: highly trained, unconventional, ruthless when necessary, but also highly intelligent, adaptable to circumstance, capable of sensitivity and humanity as well as extreme violence.
Major John Tonkin recorded his experiences on tape in the hope we would learn and this would never ever happen again. Sadly it looks like his voice cannot be heard in Russia
BBC's SAS: Rogue Warriors: Ben Macintyre reveals new truths about the original wartime commandos in new BBC2 documentary | Radio Times
Ahead of his BBC documentary, historian and presenter Ben Macintyre reveals new truths about the original commandos
www.radiotimes.com
Associated documentary. Major Tonkin telling the horrors can heard approx 50 mins in.
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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, denies it’s a duck, demands you prove it's a duck, accuses you of being a duck, says your dog is a duck, that your friend's cat is a duck & that all 3 'ducks' are Russophobic ducks paid to be crisis actors, it’s a Kremlin duck
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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, denies it’s a duck, demands you prove it's a duck, accuses you of being a duck, says your dog is a duck, that your friend's cat is a duck & that all 3 'ducks' are Russophobic ducks paid to be crisis actors, it’s a Kremlin duck
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Reports the HIMARS have been critical in giving Ukraine the ability to precisely hit back at the Russians ..
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Last week the forces started an unpresedented #HIMARS campaign on the supply hub Svatove. In 2 days at least 5 seperate targets where hit in & around Svatove. This town was a supply hub for the Lyman & Kupiansk front.1 strike took out the command of the 144th regiment.
More on NLwartracker ..
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Last week the forces started an unpresedented #HIMARS campaign on the supply hub Svatove. In 2 days at least 5 seperate targets where hit in & around Svatove. This town was a supply hub for the Lyman & Kupiansk front.1 strike took out the command of the 144th regiment.
More on NLwartracker ..
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Leaving from Russia experience ..
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Concerned borders will be closed soon and ability to leave Russia would be very hard after the acceptance of the referendum.
Flight out of Russia was $1500 for "last minute ticket", took hours to be online to get a ticket ..
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Concerned borders will be closed soon and ability to leave Russia would be very hard after the acceptance of the referendum.
Flight out of Russia was $1500 for "last minute ticket", took hours to be online to get a ticket ..
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Reports of Chinese Military Equipment on Russian Rail in Southern Siberia ..
Guess they did not have time to paint over the PRC flags ..
Echelon With Chinese Military Equipment In Altai Oblast Of Russia Located In Southern Siberia.
Sep 29, 2022
Guess they did not have time to paint over the PRC flags ..
Echelon With Chinese Military Equipment In Altai Oblast Of Russia Located In Southern Siberia.
Sep 29, 2022
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sebastiantombs
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Like that will help when the untrained/undertrained/poorly motivated troops get them. Then there's the language problem and just getting the conscripts trained on how to use all those neat new "toys".
Griswalduk
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Fatherly love
Ramzan Kadyrov: Chechen leader vows to send teenage sons to front line
Ramzan Kadyrov claims his sons, aged 14, 15 and 16, are well trained and ready to fight for Russia.
www.bbc.co.uk
Griswalduk
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In a message posted to Twitter, the Czech Defence Minister Jana Cernochova joked that contributors had bought Russian President Vladimir Putin - who marks his 70th birthday on 7 October - " a proper present".
Ukraine war: Czech crowdfunding buys 'Tomas the tank' for Ukraine
More than 10,000 people donated to the fund, which will supply a modernised T-72 tank.
www.bbc.co.uk
tigerwillow1
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Ding, ding ding: Here's the answer.
Could A Small Nuclear War Reverse Global Warming?
"The result, according to NASA climate models, could actually be global cooling. "
(Article is 11 years old, from fair and balanced huffpost).
Could A Small Nuclear War Reverse Global Warming?
"The result, according to NASA climate models, could actually be global cooling. "
(Article is 11 years old, from fair and balanced huffpost).
And untold deaths from radiation and newborn's being born deformed, or not at all.
Gargoile
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I'd rather have the radiation, than the new vaccines and food additives.
Can I exchange my carbon credits for nuclear credits?
Griswalduk
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Picture of life in Lyman emerging after it has been freed. Russian withdrawal is imperative to save lives
The defence ministry in Kyiv said in a tweet that almost all the Russian troops deployed to Lyman had been "redeployed either into body bags or into captivity".
The defence ministry in Kyiv said in a tweet that almost all the Russian troops deployed to Lyman had been "redeployed either into body bags or into captivity".
Ukraine war: Liberated town shows human cost of Russia's defeat
The BBC's Orla Guerin finds desolate scenes in Lyman, a town Ukraine recaptured from Russia.
www.bbc.co.uk
Good, but sad read. Thanks for posting it.Picture of life in Lyman emerging after it has been freed. Russian withdrawal is imperative to save lives
The defence ministry in Kyiv said in a tweet that almost all the Russian troops deployed to Lyman had been "redeployed either into body bags or into captivity".
Ukraine war: Liberated town shows human cost of Russia's defeat
The BBC's Orla Guerin finds desolate scenes in Lyman, a town Ukraine recaptured from Russia.www.bbc.co.uk
Griswalduk
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Russian forces are crumbling in the Kherson district. Attempts at widespread ethnic cleansing in this area are unravelling
The deep state map shows significant change in the last 24 / 48 hours.
deepstatemap.live
The deep state map shows significant change in the last 24 / 48 hours.
Ukraine makes breakthrough in south against Russia
Ukraine makes fresh gains in occupied territory annexed by Russia, straining Russian supply lines.
www.bbc.co.uk
Ukraine regains Kherson villages from Russians
Russia's latest setbacks came as President Putin was due to sign into force annexation decrees.
www.bbc.co.uk
DeepStateMAP | Map of the war in Ukraine
News of Russia's war against Ukraine on the map
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Griswalduk
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Although dating beck to May i have just seen and enjoyed this report. I hope the "Joker" and his crew are doing well and wish them every success