Will Dahua/Hikvision etc. make a 180 degree camera with IR?

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Janddy

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I want to buy a 180 degree camera for my backyard, but there is no ambient light and I don't really want to leave LED's on all night (we already get lots of bugs and spiders without lights on).
But all the 180 degree cameras I see recommended with good size sensors, ONVIF support, good substreams etc. don't have IR capability.
I know these 180 degree cameras are still kind of new. Is it just a matter of time until they release new models with IR, or is there a reason they aren't making them with IR?
I know nobody has a crystal ball, but I'm very new to IP cameras and just thought some people on here might have some insight or heard rumours about new models with IR in the works.
Just trying to decide If I should wait for new models or run two ethernet cables to mount two 5442 cameras instead (or risk it with the LED's I guess).
Thanks
 

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There are several versions from Dahua/Hikvision. But they have their price.

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Wow not sure how I missed that. Thanks. But yeah that's a bit out of my budget!

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Paxvigo EBF810

I told myself I wouldn't post on a non-brand name cam again, but... here goes... I found this on Slickdeals a couple of weeks ago and the discount code still works (the code is J17VMEB5ZXB9) (I bought two on two seperate orders as the code only works for one per order). My understanding is that...
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Thanks, that camera looks pretty ideal at first glance! I'll look into it some more and read the full thread a bit later. But the price is reasonable - not as cheap as the slickdeals offer but it looks like I can get it from their website for less than the IPC-Color4K-T180 which doesn't have IR.
 
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If you decide to pull the trigger on this, make sure you check out the Annke version of the same camera (they're both discussed in that thread). The two are close enough (I own both) that I'd call it a tie between them. So, go for the lower priced one at the time you decide to buy one.
 
This is a question I have too. I'm not an enthusiast in the camera space, installed a system a couple of years back and haven't done much in the way of upgrade. But I woke up one morning recently and said - "I'd love to get more coverage with my existing system, I wonder if someone makes something that gets me a wider and taller FOV than the Dahua turrets I currently have". I found a few - the Dahua dual lens turret, the Hik/Annke dual-lens turret, etc., but they all have shortfalls. I am surprised that IR is not a prime requirement for most; I live in a rural setting and think the LEDs would be problematic and would prefer IR.

I did like the Annke FCD600 - which has LED and IR - and a 180 deg wide and 81 deg tall FOV, but it's such an odd shape that I can't figure out how to cleanly mount it. It seemed to be the best balance of all of my requirements. The Dahua IPC-Color4K-T180 doesn't have IR and doesn't have a tall FOV, but it was my second consideration.

Still looking...
 
Annke continues to offer the FDC600 for $79.99. For overview they are fantastic. In my rural setting, I have 5 of them in bullet and turret models and prefer the looks of the turret myself. I only run 1 in color/LED at night which doubles as a night light but the distance to identify activity is limited to about 15 yards where in IR mode the distance is more in line with most standard IR cameras.
I suggest to anyone who wants to buy Annke products in the US to do so from annke(dot)com and NOT through sources like Alibaba.
 
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Annke continues to offer the FDC600 for $79.99. For overview they are fantastic. In my rural setting, I have 5 of them in bullet and turret models and prefer the looks of the turret myself. I only run 1 in color/LED at night which doubles as a night light but the distance to identify activity is limited to about 15 yards where in IR mode the distance is more in line with most standard IR cameras.
I suggest to anyone who wants to buy Annke products in the US to do so from annke(dot)com and NOT through sources like Alibaba.
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Can I ask - how did you mount them?
 
The turrets come with a flat mounting plate which you mount either horizontally or vertically under soffit then the camera "clips" onto the plate. My wiring is fed inside the structures via a 1 inch hole.
Here is a photo snatched from a YouTube video
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Broachoski said:
The turrets come with a flat mounting plate which you mount either horizontally or vertically under soffit then the camera "clips" onto the plate. My wiring is fed inside the structures via a 1 inch hole.
Here is a photo snatched from a YouTube video
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Thanks. So you are mounting direct to soffit and not feeding that wiring through a waterproof junction box? I was hoping to mount that plate to an existing junction box, but it doesn't line up properly at all.
 
Yep, these will not fit any standard box. Maybe you could use one of the blank box plates and modify it to the Annke mounting plate.
 
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Yep, these will not fit any standard box. Maybe you could use one of the blank box plates and modify it to the Annke mounting plate.
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Hey I know this is an old thread but just wondering if these Annke cameras work with standard POE 802.3af? I saw a review saying they use their own POE standard?
 
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Janddy said:
I want to buy a 180 degree camera for my backyard, but there is no ambient light and I don't really want to leave LED's on all night (we already get lots of bugs and spiders without lights on).
But all the 180 degree cameras I see recommended with good size sensors, ONVIF support, good substreams etc. don't have IR capability.
I know these 180 degree cameras are still kind of new. Is it just a matter of time until they release new models with IR, or is there a reason they aren't making them with IR?
I know nobody has a crystal ball, but I'm very new to IP cameras and just thought some people on here might have some insight or heard rumours about new models with IR in the works.
Just trying to decide If I should wait for new models or run two ethernet cables to mount two 5442 cameras instead (or risk it with the LED's I guess).
Thanks
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Which camera did you end up buying? And are you happy with it? I'm looking for the same.
One of my frontrunners now is this one:
www.milesight.com

AI Dual-sensor Camera | 180° Panoramic Network Camera丨Milesight

Experience seamless video stitching technology with the Milesight Dual-sensor Camera, capturing comprehensive 180° panoramic views for various environments. Discover advanced features like 8MP resolution, AI capabilities, and easy installation.
www.milesight.com www.milesight.com


But dont know much about Milesight.
 
Michelle Luo said:
We have some IP Camera with IR capability and low price.Because we are facotry direct sales.
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We don't want sales pitches in the normal forum - there is a vendors area here :

Forum list

IP Cam Talk is a place to discuss IP Cameras, CCTV, home automation, security, Blue Iris & everything related.
www.ipcamtalk.com www.ipcamtalk.com

Make a request to the site admin for an entry there if you really think you can offer members something useful.
 
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Janddy said:
I want to buy a 180 degree camera for my backyard, but there is no ambient light and I don't really want to leave LED's on all night (we already get lots of bugs and spiders without lights on).
But all the 180 degree cameras I see recommended with good size sensors, ONVIF support, good substreams etc. don't have IR capability.
I know these 180 degree cameras are still kind of new. Is it just a matter of time until they release new models with IR, or is there a reason they aren't making them with IR?
I know nobody has a crystal ball, but I'm very new to IP cameras and just thought some people on here might have some insight or heard rumours about new models with IR in the works.
Just trying to decide If I should wait for new models or run two ethernet cables to mount two 5442 cameras instead (or risk it with the LED's I guess).
Thanks
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Take a look at this camera:
PFW 3849 from Dahua is a 180° camera that features artificial intelligence, active deterrence and full color.
 
cam-da said:
Take a look at this camera:
PFW 3849 from Dahua is a 180° camera that features artificial intelligence, active deterrence and full color.
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Yes this is the low budget version of the full color version. andy sell the good version for around 200.

But there is no infrared version like the ankee 600 from dahua.

the milesight cam has infrared and good sensor/mp ratio.

only panoramic series version exist, but not the budget stiched version
 
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didnt read the spec sheet correctly. sorry. it has IR

as overview camera sensor size is Ok.
its hard to identify someone on these 180 degree cams. mount them too high (because overview) will give you even worser ability to identify. same with 2.8mm cams. good around 3-5m distance lens <> object

i may buy one of the dahua cams. but its a tioc cam, these shitty cams always have bad cpus in past.
 
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