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Apparently, James Copenhaver filmed the rooftop shooter getting killed. Nice..! Weird part? Trump is still speaking.. So, who shot Trump's ear? The shooter inside American Glass. The one in uniform. #UhOh
I am very skeptical of video with a stupid soundtrack. I do not think this is a kill shot. I am also skeptical of the video of the shooter running across the roof. When the first videos that came out show him crawling on his belly. No, these are fakes. No way he crawled on his belly and ran across the roof. Any video that comes out 2-3 weeks after the shooting is more than likely manufactured.
 

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May be right.
Similarly, was that picture supposedly showing the bullet in the air by Trump's head debunked?
I don't know if it was or not but the argument I heard was that no one taking pictures of the event would have the shutter speed set that high.
Depends .. a very good camera has a chance to have taken a picture like that ..

Remember there were many professional photographers and videographers there, and some have very good equipment.

Thus, I did not doubt this was a possible real image.
 

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May be right.
Similarly, was that picture supposedly showing the bullet in the air by Trump's head debunked?
I don't know if it was or not but the argument I heard was that no one taking pictures of the event would have the shutter speed set that high.
I’ve not seen the original photo debunked. It’s real.

The photog on the original bullet image shown the day of the shooting, was supposedly by an award winning and highly respected photog who said he was running a super fast shutter..


 
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I’ve not seen the original photo debunked. It’s real.

The photog on the original bullet image shown the day of the shooting, was supposedly an award winning and highly respected photog who said he was running a super fast shutter..

Agreed. It's not that hard to get a still image of something super fast. But for video, I would think one would need to have something better than the run of the mill video camera to show a bullet traveling through air.
 

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I am very skeptical of video with a stupid soundtrack. I do not think this is a kill shot. I am also skeptical of the video of the shooter running across the roof. When the first videos that came out show him crawling on his belly. No, these are fakes. No way he crawled on his belly and ran across the roof. Any video that comes out 2-3 weeks after the shooting is more than likely manufactured.
The video (real) of him running across the roof is a different time than the one on his belly. It’s real.
 
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May be right.
Similarly, was that picture supposedly showing the bullet in the air by Trump's head debunked?
The original photo showed a streak which would be expected with the sun in the position it was in. The bullet would travel feet in the time frame of the shutter being open, and with the sun reflection from it, would appear as a streak. Just like an IP camera. Perp running too fast for the shutter speed to freeze.

This other one showing the 'bullet' at discreate positions, and the expected 'size' of a bullet would have to have been filmed with a cam doing 300k fps or more. Also, it would not 'jump' like that.

See the Slo Mo Guys.

The Slow Mo Guys - YouTube
 

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Agree the new video put out by John Cullen does not appear real to me and has not been verified to my knowledge.

The original shot put out the day of the shooting and the video of the kid running are quite real and verified
 

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Agreed. It's not that hard to get a still image of something super fast. But for video, I would think one would need to have something better than the run of the mill video camera to show a bullet traveling through air.
Agreed.
I’m just trying not to throw out a bunch of verified real photos and videos over one bogus post by one person
 

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New Video Emerges Of Shooter Running Across Roof As Trump Is Speaking



..... The emergence of the footage comes as Beaver County officials also Fox News that the Secret Service ordered the local sniper team to position themselves on ground level looking into the crowd, rather than as opposed to on top of the roof where Crooks ended up.

Local officials are telling Fox News that the USSS told a local sniper team to set up on the "ground level looking into the crowd" as opposed to on top of the warehouse roof where the assassin would ultimately fire his shots at President Trump. They also said that had USSS told… pic.twitter.com/atI9BRR0dZ
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 31, 2024


As we highlighted earlier this week, footage has also emerged of local police surrounding Crooks from the foot of the building around two minutes before he fired any shots at Trump.
 

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New Video Emerges Of Shooter Running Across Roof As Trump Is Speaking



..... The emergence of the footage comes as Beaver County officials also Fox News that the Secret Service ordered the local sniper team to position themselves on ground level looking into the crowd, rather than as opposed to on top of the roof where Crooks ended up.

Local officials are telling Fox News that the USSS told a local sniper team to set up on the "ground level looking into the crowd" as opposed to on top of the warehouse roof where the assassin would ultimately fire his shots at President Trump. They also said that had USSS told… pic.twitter.com/atI9BRR0dZ
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 31, 2024


As we highlighted earlier this week, footage has also emerged of local police surrounding Crooks from the foot of the building around two minutes before he fired any shots at Trump.
This gee-haws with a post by @Mike A. on 7/13 about a witness who sees Crooks on the roof about 2 mins. before the shooting and is interviewed by a BBC reporter:

 

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Yeah this latest video, taken by one of the guys in the audience who got shot, is a few minutes BEFORE the one where everyone sees him prone.

The thing is, blow it up full screen on a real computer screen, and tell me WTF am I seeing at the very end of that clip?

 

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Yeah this latest video, taken by one of the guys in the audience who got shot, is a few minutes BEFORE the one where everyone sees him prone.

The thing is, blow it up full screen on a real computer screen, and tell me WTF am I seeing at the very end of that clip?
I have a couple of 27 inch monitors. I blew up the video and slowed it down to 0.07x speed. Could you be a little more specific about what you're asking about? Blowing it up didn't do much other than make the blocks larger. The video is poor resolution. It's as if someone shared the video through a text and sent a low resolution version. And, again, I can't believe there isn't more video. There's no reason I can think of to stop recording when he did.
 

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Focus on the kid on the roof. Does he jerk violently at the very end?

The guy who shot this got shot himself, agree you would think there would be more. He just got out of the hospital like 2 days ago. :idk:
 

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Everyone on X is asking the same questions about video quality. Compressed by Fox for their story? Shot on an older phone?

The two things most are pointing out are the kid seeming to jerk and something in the top left corner on the roof ?

Mebbe nothing
 

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The video stops. I can't imagine the guy deciding to stop filming at that time. One article mentioned the victim's lawyer. Maybe the rest of the video was left out at his suggestion? I'm guessing at this. I think "why isn't there more video" needs to be answered before I could really guess what happens at the end. But slowing the video down to 0.07x does not make it look like he was shot to me. I don't notice any jerking and I didn't see anything in the top left corner of the roof. At the end of what we see, as the camera is fading out, the cab of that piece of farm equipment comes back into frame at the upper left of the frame. Is that the area you were talking about?
 

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As far as the quality, it's the same everywhere. Unless for distributed the video everywhere, they got the same low resolution footage. I still think the video was sent via text or email and the video was compressed to save space due to the size limits of those distribution methods.
 

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Top left is a white thing moving. I’m guessing a flag on a building behind that one.
 
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