Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-Z)

[Parley]

crack open the cam, look at the SD card slot, toward the edge of that board near the corner is a small button you can push in.

Thank you, I will take a look.

 

[TheSuperServer]

Is there enough space behind the 5231's standard wall mount to hide the join from the cat6 connection to the camera loom?

Or would i require the optional Dahua mounting bracket to hide that?

(The cameras are going on a brick wall with external cat cable)

With just the mount that comes with the cam your not going to be able to stuff the cable and the connector behind it.

 

[mat200]

What is the next best option if I want a PTZ camera (in the same price range)?

Not a starlight, but its a good camera in the same price range:
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[Mark C]

Is there enough space behind the 5231's standard wall mount to hide the join from the cat6 connection to the camera loom?

Or would i require the optional Dahua mounting bracket to hide that?

(The cameras are going on a brick wall with external cat cable)

I was wondering what mounting box you guys recommend for a vertical mount for the 5231's?

hoping Andy gets some more in stock soon...

 

[Mark C]

i dont see it in the info listed, but does this NVR support POE? if not, whats everyone using with these cameras? (NVR only).

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[weigle2]

I was wondering what mounting box you guys recommend for a vertical mount for the 5231's?

hoping Andy gets some more in stock soon...

Use a PFB203W for wall mounting. And a PFA137 for ceiling/soffit mounting.

 

[triumph202]

i dont see it in the info listed, but does this NVR support POE? if not, whats everyone using with these cameras? (NVR only).

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Using ONVIF with a 8 channel Hikvision NVR, I'm sure there would be other NVR options from Dahua with POE. You'd be better off sticking with the same brand NVR if you're using all Dahua cameras.

 

[cybermech]

i dont see it in the info listed, but does this NVR support POE? if not, whats everyone using with these cameras? (NVR only).

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That's the part # listed for the non Poe version in your link. You need 12vdc to power the camera. Typically a Poe network switch is used to both power the camera and to add it to the network (for Poe powered cameras). Alternatively, the camera can be connected to a router or regular switch and use a 12vdc power supply. The only connection on the non Poe NVR is a single Ethernet cable that connects it to the network.

 

[triumph202]

i dont see it in the info listed, but does this NVR support POE? if not, whats everyone using with these cameras? (NVR only).

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This appears to be the one in the advert NVR5208/5216/5232-4KS2 | Dahua Technology you want this one with the POE ports NVR5216/5232-16P-4KS2 | Dahua Technology

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[cheeser]

Thanks to this forum, I purchased two of these camera...just installed one on the back of the house for now...it is zoomed out a little bit for now. I have these connected to my Synology Surveillance Station.

One question: What is the best spot to perform motion detection / alerts...the camera software or Surveillance Station? There seems to be some overlap in capabilities between the two.

We have a lot of deer that come through our backyard, but am mainly concentrating on the patio for alerts.

 

[Mark C]

This appears to be the one in the advert NVR5208/5216/5232-4KS2 | Dahua Technology you want this one with the POE ports NVR5216/5232-16P-4KS2 | Dahua Technology

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thanks a lot guys. the 2nd one you listed is the one i;m looking for. Looking for POE so i can just run 1 cat 5/6 cable to the cameras. now i just need to wait for it to come back in stock

 

[triumph202]

This post on another thread may be of interest to some people- I've put up some day time captures comparing the Starlight 2MP 5231 to a current model Hikvision 4MP (note the model I've compared isn't one of their new Ultra Low Light cameras.) DS-2CD2335FWD-I - Hikvision Ultra Low Light 3M camera

 

[mat200]

thanks a lot guys. the 2nd one you listed is the one i;m looking for. Looking for POE so i can just run 1 cat 5/6 cable to the cameras. now i just need to wait for it to come back in stock

btw - if you are buying new cat5e/cat6 cable I recommend getting the thicker gauge one 23AWG amd try to avoid the thinner one ( 24AWG ) if you can.
( noticed that some of the cat6 cables I was looking to install were thinner - i.e. 24AWG )

 

[CaliGirl]

Thanks to this forum, I purchased two of these camera...just installed one on the back of the house for now...it is zoomed out a little bit for now. I have these connected to my Synology Surveillance Station.

One question: What is the best spot to perform motion detection / alerts...the camera software or Surveillance Station? There seems to be some overlap in capabilities between the two.

We have a lot of deer that come through our backyard, but am mainly concentrating on the patio for alerts.


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Does your camera have IVS? Use that instead of motion detection. Soooo much better! It is built into most of the Dahua Cameras.

 

[Mike K]

IVS?

IVS ??

 

[Mike K]

btw - if you are buying new cat5e/cat6 cable I recommend getting the thicker gauge one 23AWG amd try to avoid the thinner one ( 24AWG ) if you can.
( noticed that some of the cat6 cables I was looking to install were thinner - i.e. 24AWG )

Why the thicker one?

 

[cheeser]

Does your camera have IVS? Use that instead of motion detection. Soooo much better! It is built into most of the Dahua Cameras.

I believe they have IVS. I have to read up on that a bit, but curious how alerts from IVS would go to the Surveillance Station software.

 

[triumph202]

DS-2CD2335FWD-I - Hikvision Ultra Low Light 3M camera - IPC-HDW5231R-Z Starlight vs 4MP Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I locked in colour at night.

 

[mat200]

I believe they have IVS. I have to read up on that a bit, but curious how alerts from IVS would go to the Surveillance Station software.

Thicker copper wire = less power loss per meter/foot and thus you can have longer PoE cable runs.

 

[Solar Deity]

btw - if you are buying new cat5e/cat6 cable I recommend getting the thicker gauge one 23AWG amd try to avoid the thinner one ( 24AWG ) if you can.
( noticed that some of the cat6 cables I was looking to install were thinner - i.e. 24AWG )

Why the thicker one?

I would say the most important cable spec, whichever AWG you decide, is Solid Bare Copper. 24 or 23 gauge hasn't made a bit of difference for three SD59225H-UNI's, which are PTZ's with heaters. If you are running these 5231's, I feel it's even less important. I have tested these cameras, (5231's and 59's) in every conceivable configuration out there. Power brick, POE (802.3af), POE+ (802.3at) without issue. Keep in mind my test run was 103' 6" exactly.

That being said, pure physics would dictate that larger diameter copper will have less voltage loss over distance. My test runs were ~100 feet, and I used Monoprice Cat 6 Super Duper Heavy Duty Watch Out Don't Pull It by Yourself and Drive stuff.
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It was $111 shipped to my door. It has the internal separator and is harder to bend(easier to damage), pull and get through tight spaces. It's about twice as much as well, but for a longer run, for a PTZ that needs the extra wattage, you may want it.

I bought this Ebay Cat5E 24 AWG Solid Bare Copper for $65 to my door.
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I haven't noticed a difference between the two. I bought the Cat5e for power to PIR's and microphones, but ended up using the less expensive cable to test the 3 PTZ's.

I would be remiss if I didn't state that I'm using a Microsemi PD Hi POE midspan currently with the SD59. That uses both pair of extra wires (4,5,7 & 8) to get the power to the camera, but again I tested three powered setups for 100' without issue. YMMV.

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