Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

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someones pockets getting lined?

if Google (who is also in bed with the communist Chinese government) blocks links to the attached video. It can be found on YouTube directly by the Title “ Tucker: World Health Organization praises China, denies Taiwan’s existence “
 
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POST EDIT: found this article after posting the below. Sorry, I should have vetted this info better, especially when my gut was questioning the Listerine statement...

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The following comment from supposed "John's Hopkins" related is very perplexing. I assume it is meant to be applied to the Covid-19 molecule outside the body on a surface rather than after it has joined a cell inside the body. Clearly, a lot of scientists are scrambling to find post-Covid19 humans who have developed antibodies and want to find out how those antibodies may be use to fight Covid-19 in other people.

"antibodies cannot kill what is not alive"
 
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Concerns me that someone from Hopkins would say the virus is "a protein molecule (DNA)."

Protein is not DNA and the Coronaviruses are single strand RNA enveloped in protein and lipid.

Otherwise good info. Perhaps the issue was a poor transcript of what was said.

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Concerns me that someone from Hopkins would say the virus is "a protein molecule (DNA)."

Protein is not DNA and the Coronaviruses are single strand RNA enveloped in protein and lipid.

Otherwise good info. Perhaps the issue was a poor transcript of what was said.

"A virus is the smallest of infectious microbes, smaller than bacteria or fungi. A virus consists of a small piece of genetic material (DNA or RNA) surrounded by a protein shell. Viruses cannot survive without a living cell in which to reproduce. Once a virus enters a living cell (the host cell) and takes over a cell's inner workings, the cell cannot carry out its normal life-sustaining tasks. The host cell becomes a virus manufacturing plant, making viral parts that then reassemble into whole viruses and go on to infect other cells. Eventually, the host cell dies."
 
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"We observed that DNA viruses are able to attack both human cellular and metabolic processes simultaneously during infections. On the other hand, RNA viruses preferentially interact with human proteins functioning in specific cellular processes as well as in intracellular transport and localization within the cell."
 

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♦ COVID-19 & protective measures thoroughly explained...
The following is from Irene Ken, physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative!♦

* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).
But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.
* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.
  • UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.
  • The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
  • Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
  • NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
  • LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
  • The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
  • You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.
  • You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.
  • Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.
-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL
The above was sent to me by a friend and I took it as from a trusted source with John Hopkins connections.
I should have vetted this better. I will say that when reading it I did question the Listerine statement of 65% Alcohol. I should have looked into that when my gut told me otherwise
 

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The above was sent to me by a friend and I took it as from a trusted source with John Hopkins connections.
I should have vetted this better. I will say that when reading it I did question the Listerine statement of 65% Alcohol. I should have looked into that when my gut told me otherwise
No worries...It happens to all of us.

p.s. I'm not 100% a believer in snopes.com on a number of topics for FWIW...they aren't batting 100 either.
 

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No worries...It happens to all of us.

p.s. I'm not 100% a believer in snopes.com on a number of topics for FWIW...they aren't batting 100 either.
I didn't get the initial "advise" from Snopes only the article disputing the info. Snopes article points out other incorrect information. Like Covid-19 is RNA not DNA.
 
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Coronavirus Chronicles
April 6, 2020 Issue, from The New Yorker

How Does the Coronavirus Behave Inside a Patient? We’ve counted the viral spread across peoples; now we need to count it within people.

 

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Corona-virus:

Concerns that Chinese state owned companies will purchase for a "song" companies and land in Australia:

"China should be made to pay reparations for the outbreak of the coronavirus, but given they are unlikely to do so "maybe (Australia) can take back the land that their foreign owned corporations have as damages" says Nationals MP George Christensen.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has set the dollar value which would trigger a review into a foreign investment bid to zero, meaning all foreign investment bids reviewed by the Foreign Investment Review Boarded will be weighed up against the national interest.

Mr Christensen the treasurer understands public sentiment is against letting "state-owned corporations out of China swoop up and pick up Australian companies and Australian farm land for a song".

"It's not in the national interest to have state owned corporations owning Australian companies," Mr Christensen said. .."

 

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Corona-virus:

Concerns that Chinese state owned companies will purchase for a "song" companies and land in Australia:

I'm a big believer in applying the same laws/rules to certain non-citizen of their own countries. For example, in Mexico, Americans can not own real estate, you can only lease it for 100 years or something like that. Mexican nationals therefore should not be allowed to own real estate in the USA as a reciprocal implementation of what I would propose. And, if in China one can only own a 49% stake in any entity then those rules should apply to Chinese nationals in this country.
 
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You may not like Snopes but I have found it to be a reliable source for determining what is fake, was is not and what is in between. These claims are totally unsupported and its reckless to spread them as facts.
It seems so many on the Left would love for hydroxychloroquine to fail, just to prove Trump wrong. And it really shows the level of their TDS.
 
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