Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

It's a nice feeling to be on the ignore list.

Hi @Barboots

I concur with your thoughts on the topic: ".. I find it unacceptable that I wouldn't be permitted to buy a house next door to a person who bought next door to mine... "

note, I've missed reading a few posts recently due to my available time - nothing to do with ignoring anyone on this thread. So please don't take it that your comment was not a good one.

Those I have spoken to in the USA, tell me that if they want to establish a company in China, that it must be 50%+ controlled by a PRC citizen. Typically a CCP party member.. otherwise it does not happen...
 
Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be wearing a mask outside

Can’t get toilet paper. Can’t get wipes. Can’t get tested. So tell me...where the fuQ is “everyone“ supposed to get masks.
 
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Lots of actions occurring behind the scenes to keep the financial system functional. Some are already concerned that the "cure" will result in "socializing the risks, privatizing the profits". Of course, we'll understand the results better in a few years. Who knows, perhaps joe tax payer can sell some of these assets for more in 5 years.



The Fed's Cure Risks Being Worse Than the Disease
An alphabet soup of new asset-buying programs will essentially nationalize large swaths of the financial markets, and the consequences could be profound.

By Jim Bianco
March 27, 2020, 4:00 AM PDT

The economic debate of the day centers on whether the cure of an economic shutdown is worse than the disease of the virus. Similarly, we need to ask if the cure of the Federal Reserve getting so deeply into corporate bonds, asset-backed securities, commercial paper, and exchange-traded funds is worse than the disease seizing financial markets. It may be.

In just these past few weeks, the Fed has cut rates by 150 basis points to near zero and run through its entire 2008 crisis handbook. That wasn’t enough to calm markets, though — so the central bank also announced $1 trillion a day in repurchase agreements and unlimited quantitative easing, which includes a hard-to-understand $625 billion of bond buying a week going forward. At this rate, the Fed will own two-thirds of the Treasury market in a year.

But it’s the alphabet soup of new programs that deserve special consideration, as they could have profound long-term consequences for the functioning of the Fed and the allocation of capital in financial markets. Specifically, these are:

CPFF (Commercial Paper Funding Facility) – buying commercial paper from the issuer.
PMCCF (Primary Market Corporate Credit Facility) – buying corporate bonds from the issuer.
TALF (Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility) – funding backstop for asset-backed securities.
SMCCF (Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facility) – buying corporate bonds and bond ETFs in the secondary market.
MSBLP (Main Street Business Lending Program) – Details are to come, but it will lend to eligible small and medium-size businesses, complementing efforts by the Small Business Association.

To put it bluntly, the Fed isn’t allowed to do any of this. The central bank is only allowed to purchase or lend against securities that have government guarantee. This includes Treasury securities, agency mortgage-backed securities and the debt issued by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. An argument can be made that can also include municipal securities, but nothing in the laundry list above.

So how can they do this? The Fed will finance a special purpose vehicle (SPV) for each acronym to conduct these operations. The Treasury, using the Exchange Stabilization Fund, will make an equity investment in each SPV and be in a “first loss” position. What does this mean? In essence, the Treasury, not the Fed, is buying all these securities and backstopping of loans; the Fed is acting as banker and providing financing. The Fed hired BlackRock Inc. to purchase these securities and handle the administration of the SPVs on behalf of the owner, the Treasury.

In other words, the federal government is nationalizing large swaths of the financial markets. The Fed is providing the money to do it. BlackRock will be doing the trades.

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The Fed's Cure Risks Being Worse Than the Disease
 
Wasn’t everyone raising the roof over the evils of “socialism” just a months ago? :lmao:
 
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Curious to know if people can reuse their N95 mask. Seems somewhat like you could accidently contaminate yourself with Covid-19 as the mask possibly contains Covid-19 on the outside of the mask. Touch the outside of the mask then potentially you now have Covid-19 on your hand. Brush the exterior of a used mask against your face then uh oh.

So is it advisable to throw away a N95 mask if you use it for 10 minutes in Walmart, grocery store, etc?

Or is there a process to recycle them like put it in the oven at 120 degrees for 30 minutes as an example or spray it with alcohol/peroxide then let it dry out naturally for 3 days. Just examples so don't freak out...LOL.
 
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Curious to know if people can reuse their N95 mask. Seems somewhat like you could accidently contaminate yourself with Covid-19 as the mask possibly contains Covid-19 on the outside of the mask. Touch the outside of the mask then potentially you now have Covid-19 on your hand. Brush the exterior of a used mask against your face then uh oh.

So is it advisable to throw away a N95 mask if you use it for 10 minutes in Walmart, grocery store, etc?

Or is there a process to recycle them like put it in the oven at 120 degrees for 30 minutes as an example or spray it with alcohol/peroxide then let it dry out naturally for 3 days. Just examples so don't freak out...LOL.
The President just got a private company going on making a machine that can disinfect masks.

I am meaning to look into what the process is. UV...Ozone?

But yes people will need to learn how to use a mask properly in regards to protection from virus.

wash your hands or wear clean gloves and then you can touch mask. Don’t shake it as to dislodge virus. Store it as to not contaminate anything else. Wash hands again.
 
The President just got a private company going on making a machine that can disinfect masks.

I am meaning to look into what the process is. UV...Ozone?

I started looking into it and read two long blah, blah, blah articles about potentially reusing them but only listed cautions /dangers and never provided a solution. Instead of wasting my time I thought I'd ask you interweb warriors.
 
Well, so far I've read spraying with alcohol will damage materials meant to capture droplets.

Vaporized hydrogen peroxide will apparently work but I don't think your typical homeowner has a method to do this.
 
What is your opinion on whether or not cruise ships should be allowed to dock in the USA some with primarily foreign nationals.

I would think it would make sense to have these ships do one of the following:

  • Return to the port of origin of the cruise
  • Go to the country the ship is registered

I don't think it's fair for the ships to head to the USA as a haven. I believe Americans on board should be repatriated to the USA but be tested and quarantined at a appropriate site per the test results. Foreign nationals not already in this country should not be allowed here until further notice.


 
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Go back to port of origin. They were foolish enough to sail at this uncertain time, they made a poor choice. Not our problem.
 
I read a news that all US at public places have to wear masks, maybe this is a rumor?
The gym here also have strict socil distancing. :headbang:
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We wear the masks around 3 months till now!

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