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FDA Ignores New UK Study Showing Pfizer Vaccine Destroys T Cells, Weakens the Immune System

study from the Francis Crick Institute in the United Kingdom has found that the Pfizer-BioNTech Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine destroys T cells and weakens the immune system. But pharmaceutical corporations are trying to suggest that the only way to prevent this from happening is for people to get third or booster doses of their vaccines.

T cells are immune cells that can focus on targeting specific foreign particles. They are most commonly studied in relation to their ability to fight cancer and infectious diseases, but they are also essential for other aspects of the body’s immune response.

There are two kinds of T cells: killer T cells and helper T cells. Killer T cells directly attack cells that have already been infected by foreign particles. Helper T cells aid other cells to develop killer cells and stimulate other cells to create neutralizing antibodies.

This study from the Francis Crick Institute focuses on the neutralizing antibodies created by T cells. It analyzes whether the Pfizer vaccine helps the T cells create enough antibodies to fight off the COVID-19 variants.

Pfizer vaccine barely produces antibodies to fight against COVID-19 The Francis Crick Institute, in collaboration with the British National Institute for Health Research, released a study that showed that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine produced fewer neutralizing antibodies against COVID-19’s variants. (Related: Spanish study finds Pfizer vaccine contains high levels of TOXIC graphene oxide.)

The scientists analyzed the antibodies from the blood of 250 healthy adults who have received either one or two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine up to three months after their first dose.

The researchers used a test specially developed by the Francis Crick Institute to figure out the ability of the neutralizing antibodies to prevent the entry of the COVID-19 variants.

It found that only 50 percent of the people who received a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a quantifiable neutralizing antibody response against the alpha variant of COVID-19. This number decreased even further to just 32 percent and 25 percent for the delta and beta variants, respectively.

The situation gets worse for older individuals who have weaker immune systems. The researchers found that older vaccine recipients generated even fewer antibodies. Coupled with the vaccine’s ability to destroy T cells and weaken the immune system even further, getting vaccinated could spell disaster for many people.

No correlation was observed for gender or body mass index. The authors of the study want to pursue further studies to check the capabilities of other vaccines, starting with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.
“So, the key message from our finding is we found that recipients of the Pfizer vaccine, those who have had two doses, have about five- to six-fold lower amounts of neutralizing antibodies,” said David Bauer, head of the Bauer Lab in the Francis Crick Institute. He continued:

“Now, these are the, sort of, gold standard, private security antibodies of your immune system which block the virus from getting into your cells in the first place. So, we’ve found that that is less for people with two doses. We also found that for people with only one dose of the Pfizer jab that they are less likely to have high levels of these antibodies in their blood.”

Instead of recommending that people stay away from the COVID-19 vaccines to protect their natural immune systems, Bauer instead said people should get booster doses of the vaccines. He also said older people should be prioritized in the distribution of booster doses.

“And perhaps most importantly for all of us going forward is that we see that the older you are, the lower your levels are likely to be. And the time since you’ve had your second jab, as that time goes on, the lower your levels are also likely to be,” he said. “So, that’s telling us that we are probably going to be needing to prioritize boosters for older and more vulnerable people.”

FDA Ignores New UK Study Showing Pfizer Vaccine Destroys T Cells, Weakens the Immune System (americanconservativemovement.com)
 

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FDA Ignores New UK Study Showing Pfizer Vaccine Destroys T Cells, Weakens the Immune System

study from the Francis Crick Institute in the United Kingdom has found that the Pfizer-BioNTech Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine destroys T cells and weakens the immune system. But pharmaceutical corporations are trying to suggest that the only way to prevent this from happening is for people to get third or booster doses of their vaccines.

T cells are immune cells that can focus on targeting specific foreign particles. They are most commonly studied in relation to their ability to fight cancer and infectious diseases, but they are also essential for other aspects of the body’s immune response.

There are two kinds of T cells: killer T cells and helper T cells. Killer T cells directly attack cells that have already been infected by foreign particles. Helper T cells aid other cells to develop killer cells and stimulate other cells to create neutralizing antibodies.

This study from the Francis Crick Institute focuses on the neutralizing antibodies created by T cells. It analyzes whether the Pfizer vaccine helps the T cells create enough antibodies to fight off the COVID-19 variants.

Pfizer vaccine barely produces antibodies to fight against COVID-19 The Francis Crick Institute, in collaboration with the British National Institute for Health Research, released a study that showed that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine produced fewer neutralizing antibodies against COVID-19’s variants. (Related: Spanish study finds Pfizer vaccine contains high levels of TOXIC graphene oxide.)

The scientists analyzed the antibodies from the blood of 250 healthy adults who have received either one or two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine up to three months after their first dose.

The researchers used a test specially developed by the Francis Crick Institute to figure out the ability of the neutralizing antibodies to prevent the entry of the COVID-19 variants.

It found that only 50 percent of the people who received a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a quantifiable neutralizing antibody response against the alpha variant of COVID-19. This number decreased even further to just 32 percent and 25 percent for the delta and beta variants, respectively.

The situation gets worse for older individuals who have weaker immune systems. The researchers found that older vaccine recipients generated even fewer antibodies. Coupled with the vaccine’s ability to destroy T cells and weaken the immune system even further, getting vaccinated could spell disaster for many people.

No correlation was observed for gender or body mass index. The authors of the study want to pursue further studies to check the capabilities of other vaccines, starting with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.
“So, the key message from our finding is we found that recipients of the Pfizer vaccine, those who have had two doses, have about five- to six-fold lower amounts of neutralizing antibodies,” said David Bauer, head of the Bauer Lab in the Francis Crick Institute. He continued:

“Now, these are the, sort of, gold standard, private security antibodies of your immune system which block the virus from getting into your cells in the first place. So, we’ve found that that is less for people with two doses. We also found that for people with only one dose of the Pfizer jab that they are less likely to have high levels of these antibodies in their blood.”

Instead of recommending that people stay away from the COVID-19 vaccines to protect their natural immune systems, Bauer instead said people should get booster doses of the vaccines. He also said older people should be prioritized in the distribution of booster doses.

“And perhaps most importantly for all of us going forward is that we see that the older you are, the lower your levels are likely to be. And the time since you’ve had your second jab, as that time goes on, the lower your levels are also likely to be,” he said. “So, that’s telling us that we are probably going to be needing to prioritize boosters for older and more vulnerable people.”

FDA Ignores New UK Study Showing Pfizer Vaccine Destroys T Cells, Weakens the Immune System (americanconservativemovement.com)
So if Big Pharma created a shot that could weaken our Immune system would that not open up a door for them to sell more drugs? Hmmm...
 

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I've had concerns over the effects of the vaccines as well, even though I did take immunology as a course in the past and have a complete understanding of how the mRNA vaccines work. One myth to bust is that no, the mRNA vaccines will not elongate the male shaft (the male sperm will not be affected, BUT obviously the crap in our GMO food can hamper with our bodies thanks to pesticide and herbicide use), and no the mRNA vaccines will not create fertility problems for females. However, as far as cross reaction with the immune system goes, I do feel there is a blurred line to some degree. Whenever you take a vaccine, there is a slight weakening to the immune system overall because the immune system is pushed to the limits for the short term as immune cells in our body detects foreign agents (in this case the vaccine); this explains the number of potential sides effects for the short term. The mRNA vaccines are supposed to eliminate the number of side effects that usually accompany traditional live attenuated vaccines as they are transported directly the cells via lipid nanoparticles. The antibodies are not created forever which explains why the booster is necessitated. However, the sooner we are out of this pandemic, the sooner we can move on and not think about further booster shots. :)

So if Big Pharma created a shot that could weaken our Immune system would that not open up a door for them to sell more drugs? Hmmm...
 

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.... The antibodies are not created forever which explains why the booster is necessitated. However, the sooner we are out of this pandemic, the sooner we can move on and not think about further booster shots. :)
One thing I read (probably linked on here) said that because there are animal reservoirs for the virus, we can't eradicate it. And since the vaccine does not prevent one from getting or transmitting the virus, I don't see how we get "out of this pandemic." Unless by natural immunity to catching the disease.
 

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One of my cousins was infected twice. Once during the first wave, and second time during the third wave. The first time she got the virus, she developed sufficient antibodies. Although she got infected during the third wave, the symptoms were not as bad, but then again she did get infected. A couple of months ago, she got vaccinated and has been travelling all over the country ever since without any recurring exposure. She still feels the long term effects from the first exposure unfortunately

One thing I read (probably linked on here) said that because there are animal reservoirs for the virus, we can't eradicate it. And since the vaccine does not prevent one from getting or transmitting the virus, I don't see how we get "out of this pandemic." Unless by natural immunity to catching the disease.
 

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One thing I read (probably linked on here) said that because there are animal reservoirs for the virus, we can't eradicate it. And since the vaccine does not prevent one from getting or transmitting the virus, I don't see how we get "out of this pandemic." Unless by natural immunity to catching the disease.
This is why this virus cannot be compared to the Eradicated Smallpox:


"Variola virus is the etiological agent of smallpox. During the smallpox era, the only known reservoir for the virus was humans; no known animal or insect reservoirs or vectors existed. The most frequent mode of transmission was person-to-person, spread through direct deposit of infective droplets onto the nasal, oral, or pharyngeal mucosal membranes, or the alveoli of the lungs from close, face-to-face contact with an infectious person. Indirect spread (i.e., not requiring face-to-face contact with an infectious person) through fine-particle aerosols or a fomite containing the virus was less common."
 

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This is why this virus cannot be compared to the Eradicated Smallpox:


"Variola virus is the etiological agent of smallpox. During the smallpox era, the only known reservoir for the virus was humans; no known animal or insect reservoirs or vectors existed. The most frequent mode of transmission was person-to-person, spread through direct deposit of infective droplets onto the nasal, oral, or pharyngeal mucosal membranes, or the alveoli of the lungs from close, face-to-face contact with an infectious person. Indirect spread (i.e., not requiring face-to-face contact with an infectious person) through fine-particle aerosols or a fomite containing the virus was less common."
And this is the basis of a question I have had since the beginning of this fiasco. What is the plan? I'm being serious, not facetious. It sure seems to me that the whole ordeal is doctors and scientists not willing to admit they don't have an answer right now. So they make up wearing masks is a good idea. They claim the vaccine is the "cure", oh wait, the vaccinated should wear masks. :rolleyes: How does this thing end? Those who survive the virus survive, and those who can't die? We know the vaccine doesn't cure it or even prevent you from getting sick or dying. Take the vaccine and hope?
 

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It's a political move and, from what I can see, not based on the hallowed "science" at all. There have been many anecdotal reports of serious side effects other than the one mention, cardiac problems in the under 40 age group. There have been multiple studies from reputable sources showing bad side effects happening more often than being reported and the terrible efficacy decline in a relatively short time.

It's all about getting everyone forced into getting a jab to keep their job and live a semi-normal life, albeit with masks, social distancing and semi-lock downs. I do wonder what special leverage Pfizer has to get this done so soon, as in before any real time to determine long term effects has passed. Wonder if they have their very own "Hunter laptop".
 

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Throw in some more of the "rules for thee but not for me" from good old, really old, Pelosi -

I love how it shows that no one is really paying attention to her talking :rofl:

This is just leftist elites getting together, networking, with aspirations on how best to keep their pocket books overflowing
 

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It's a political move and, from what I can see, not based on the hallowed "science" at all. There have been many anecdotal reports of serious side effects other than the one mention, cardiac problems in the under 40 age group. There have been multiple studies from reputable sources showing bad side effects happening more often than being reported and the terrible efficacy decline in a relatively short time.

It's all about getting everyone forced into getting a jab to keep their job and live a semi-normal life, albeit with masks, social distancing and semi-lock downs. I do wonder what special leverage Pfizer has to get this done so soon, as in before any real time to determine long term effects has passed. Wonder if they have their very own "Hunter laptop".
 

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