Reolink outside install

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Hi
Newbie here.
Looking to install 4 outside cameras. Looking to go through an outside wall in a second level on my home in a spare bedroom. Thinking about a 4 port network plate on the outside with a weather guard and one on the inside wall with short patch cables to connect the both of them. Is there an easier way with just one cable coming through the outside wall.
And would the outside install all the connectors to fit under camera base.
Thanks
 
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Simplest solution is not to install Reolink. They are not worth the time or effort due to the firmware Reolink uses which limits bit rates, frame rates, iframe rates and shutter speeds to what they "think" is right. Result is blurred motion. When selecting a camera look for video with motion in low/no light conditions especially. Look around the forum. There are numerous reviews of cameras from the $75 dollar range up to the $1000+ range.

As far as using an RJ bulkhead plate outside, it's not a good idea. It's best to home run every camera line back to the network switch. Using a bulkhead plate provides too much chance of moisture getting in, even with dielectric grease, and causing problems that usually result in making bricks out of cameras. A weather guard will not stop condensation from happening which will eventually cause the same problem.
 

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Not sure the purpose of the cameras. But if they are REOLINK send them back. REOLINK cameras are pure useless junk.

Mounting cameras on the second level of a house will show you what happened but not who did it. The object is to ID the bad guys and put them in jail.

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1) If you do not have a wired monitored alarm system, get that first
2) Use Dahua starlight cameras or Hikvision darkfighter cameras if you need good low light cameras.
3) Start with a good variable focus camera, so you test for the correct lens,lighting, camera placement.
4) use a VPN to access home network (openVPN)
5) Do not use wifi cameras.
6) Do not use cloud storage
7) Do Not use uPNP, P2P, QR, do not open ports,
8) More megapixel is not necessarily better.
9) Avoid chinese hacked cameras (most ebay, amazon, aliexpress cameras(not all, but most))
10) Do not use reolink, ring, nest, Arlo cameras (they are junk), no cloud cameras
11) If possible use a turret camera , bullet collect spiders, dome collect dirt and reflect light (IR)
12) Use only solid copper, AWG 23 or 24 ethernet wire. , no CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum)
13) use a test mount to verify the camera mount location. My test rig: rev.2
14) (Looney2ns)If you want to be able to ID faces, don't mount cams higher than 7ft. You want to know who did it, not just what happened.

15) Use a router that has openVPN built in (Most ASUS, Some NetGear....)
16) camera placement use the calculator... IPVM Camera Calculator V3
17) POE list PoE Switch Suggestion List
18) Camera Sensor size, bigger is general better Sensor Size Chart
19) Camera lens size, a bigger number give more range but less field of view. Which Security Camera Lens Size Should I Buy?
20) verify your camera placement, have a friend wearing a hoodie, ball cap and sunglasses looking down approach the house, can you identify them at night ?
21) DO NOT UPGRADE your NVR or camera firmware unless you absolutely have a problem that needs to be fixed and known what you are doing, if you do you will turn it into a brick !!

Cameras to look at
IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED . Review IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED (Full Color, Starlight+) - 4MP starlight
.................... Dahua IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED review
IPC-T5442TM-AS ..... Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+ - 4MP starlight+
IPC-HDW5442t-ZE .... Dahua IPC-HDW5442T-ZE 4MP Varifocal Turret - Night Perfomance testing -- variable focus 2.7 mm-12mm 4 MP Starlight
IPC-B5442E-ZE ...... Review - OEM IPC-B5442E-ZE 4MP AI Varifocal Bullet Camera With Starlight+ -- variable 2.7mm-12mm bullet
IPC-B5442E-Z4E .... bullet 8mm-32mm variable focus zoom 4MP
IPC-HFW7442H-Z ..... Review - Dahua IPC-HFW7442H-Z 4MP Ultra AI Varifocal Bullet Camera -- 4 MP variable focus AI
IPC-T2347G-LU ...... Review of the Hikvision OEM model IPC-T2347G-LU 'ColorVu' IP CCTV camera. (DS-2CD2347G1-LU)
IPC-HDW2231R-ZS .... Review-Dahua IPC-HDW2231RP-ZS Starlight Camera-Varifocal
IPC-HDW2231T-ZS-S2 . Review-OEM IPC-T2231T-ZS Ver 2, 2mp Varifocal Starlight Camera
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE .... Review-Dahua Starlight IPC-HDW5231R-ZE 800 meter capable ePOE
IPC-HFW4239T-ASE ... IPC-HFW4239T-ASE
IPCT-HDW5431RE-I ... Review - IP Cam Talk 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera
IPC-T5241H-AS-PV ... Review-OEM IPC-T5241H-AS-PV 2mp AI active deterrence cam
IPC-T3241-ZAS ...... Review-OEM IPC-T3241-ZAS 2mp AI Lite series Varifocal -- 2mp AI Lite series Varifocal
IPC-HFW2831T-ZS ... Review-Dahua IPC-HFW2831T-ZS 8MP WDR IR Bullet Network Camera -- 8MP Bullet 1/1.8” sensor variable focus.
DS-2CD2325FWD-I
N22AL12 ............ [URLhttps://ipcamtalk.com/threads/new-dahua-n22al12-budget-cam-w-starlight.43074/[/URL] -- low cost entry​
IPC-T2347G-LU....... Review-Loryta OEM 4MP IPC-T2347G-LU ColorVu Fixed Turret Network 4mm lens & Junction Box -- 4MP ColorVu
.................... Review of the Hikvision OEM model IPC-T2347G-LU 'ColorVu' IP CCTV camera.

Other dahua 4MP starlight
My preferred indoor cameras
DS-2CD2442FWD-IW
IPC-K35A Review-Dahua IPC-K35A 3mp Cube Camera
IPC-K42A

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Simplest solution is not to install Reolink. They are not worth the time or effort due to the firmware Reolink uses which limits bit rates, frame rates, iframe rates and shutter speeds to what they "think" is right. Result is blurred motion. When selecting a camera look for video with motion in low/no light conditions especially. Look around the forum. There are numerous reviews of cameras from the $75 dollar range up to the $1000+ range.

As far as using an RJ bulkhead plate outside, it's not a good idea. It's best to home run every camera line back to the network switch. Using a bulkhead plate provides too much chance of moisture getting in, even with dielectric grease, and causing problems that usually result in making bricks out of cameras. A weather guard will not stop condensation from happening which will eventually cause the same problem.
Makes sense on moisture.
I have a crazy lady neighbor I need to keep an eye on.
What would you suggest at a $400 budget for a non tec guy.
Thanks for the fast response.
Ordered yesterday so I can cancel.
PS are they that bad ?
 

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You didn't say which ones you bought, but I suspect they are the 2.8mm lens and you will quickly be disappointed in those, especially at night. 2.8mm cameras have a place, but that usually isn't on a 2nd story unless it is strictly an overview camera that one places knowing that identification will not occur, but you can see what happens.

Too many people get fascinated with the wide angle views that 2.8mm and other "all in one units" like a Reolink or Arlo can provide and chase megapixels. But the picture is really no different than taking a pic from the same place with a cell phone - take that picture and then zoom in and it is a pixelated mess.

You would be shocked how close someone needs to be to a 2.8 lens in order to ID them.

My neighbor was bragging to me how he only needed his 4 Arlo cams to see his entire property and the street and his whole backyard. His car was sitting in the driveway practically touching the garage door and his video quality was useless to ID the perp not even 10 feet away.

When we had a thief come thru here and get into a lot of cars, the police couldn't use one video or photo from anyone's system that had fixed 2.8mm or 3.6mm cams - those cams sure looks nice and gives a great wide angle view, but you cannot identify anyone at 15 feet out. At night you cannot even ID someone from 10 feet. Meanwhile, the perp didn't come to my house but walked past on the sidewalk at 80 feet from my house and my 2MP varifocal zoomed in to a point at the sidewalk was the money shot for the police. Reolinks are even worse than these at night - he tried those first and sent back to get Arlos....and a year later he is regretting that choice too.

In fact my system was the only one that gave them useful information. Not even my other neighbors $1,300 4MP Lorex system from Costco provided useful info - the cams just didn't cut it at night. His system wasn't even a year old and after that event has started replacing with cameras purchased from @EMPIRETECANDY on this site based on my recommendation and seeing my results and fortunately those cams work with the Lorex NVR. He is still shocked a 2MP camera performs better than his 4MP...

My first few systems were the box units that were all 2.8mm lens and while the picture looked great in daytime, to identify someone you didn't know is impossible unless they are within 10 feet of the camera, and even then it is tough. You are getting the benefit coming to this site of hearing thoughts from people that have been there/done that.

We all hate to be that guy with a system and something happens and the event demonstrates how poor our system was and then we start the update process. My neighbor with his expensive arlos and monthly fees is that guy right now and is still fuming his system failed him. You said you could still take them back, and I would consider that.

With all that said, if all you are concerned with is a neighbor, then get a PTZ that you can swing around and track them. I would probably still get an overview camera as well.

Where is the neighbors house compared to yours - right next to or across the street - that would dictate where a PTZ would go and would also dictate for a fixed camera which lens size to get.
 

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You didn't say which ones you bought, but I suspect they are the 2.8mm lens and you will quickly be disappointed in those, especially at night. 2.8mm cameras have a place, but that usually isn't on a 2nd story unless it is strictly an overview camera that one places knowing that identification will not occur, but you can see what happens.

Too many people get fascinated with the wide angle views that 2.8mm and other "all in one units" like a Reolink or Arlo can provide and chase megapixels. But the picture is really no different than taking a pic from the same place with a cell phone - take that picture and then zoom in and it is a pixelated mess.

You would be shocked how close someone needs to be to a 2.8 lens in order to ID them.

My neighbor was bragging to me how he only needed his 4 Arlo cams to see his entire property and the street and his whole backyard. His car was sitting in the driveway practically touching the garage door and his video quality was useless to ID the perp not even 10 feet away.

When we had a thief come thru here and get into a lot of cars, the police couldn't use one video or photo from anyone's system that had fixed 2.8mm or 3.6mm cams - those cams sure looks nice and gives a great wide angle view, but you cannot identify anyone at 15 feet out. At night you cannot even ID someone from 10 feet. Meanwhile, the perp didn't come to my house but walked past on the sidewalk at 80 feet from my house and my 2MP varifocal zoomed in to a point at the sidewalk was the money shot for the police. Reolinks are even worse than these at night - he tried those first and sent back to get Arlos....and a year later he is regretting that choice too.

In fact my system was the only one that gave them useful information. Not even my other neighbors $1,300 4MP Lorex system from Costco provided useful info - the cams just didn't cut it at night. His system wasn't even a year old and after that event has started replacing with cameras purchased from @EMPIRETECANDY on this site based on my recommendation and seeing my results and fortunately those cams work with the Lorex NVR. He is still shocked a 2MP camera performs better than his 4MP...

My first few systems were the box units that were all 2.8mm lens and while the picture looked great in daytime, to identify someone you didn't know is impossible unless they are within 10 feet of the camera, and even then it is tough. You are getting the benefit coming to this site of hearing thoughts from people that have been there/done that.

We all hate to be that guy with a system and something happens and the event demonstrates how poor our system was and then we start the update process. My neighbor with his expensive arlos and monthly fees is that guy right now and is still fuming his system failed him. You said you could still take them back, and I would consider that.

With all that said, if all you are concerned with is a neighbor, then get a PTZ that you can swing around and track them. I would probably still get an overview camera as well.

Where is the neighbors house compared to yours - right next to or across the street - that would dictate where a PTZ would go and would also dictate for a fixed camera which lens size to get.

Neighbor is 15 ft to my right looking put my front door.
I emailed to cancel the kit it is less than 12 hours but I think they will screw me.
I need to able to see that side.
Also need 24/7 recording
Also plug and play if possible.
Will install on first floor but wires will come from second.
Thanks
 
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Price ranges are 5442, $150-200ea, 2231is around $125ea, 3241 is around $135ea.

What ever you buy, be sure to get a variifocal and not a fixed lens. A varifocal is not a true "zoom" camera but is designed to be "zoomed" and set at installation and left that way. The zoom mechanism is not built for constant use. The 2231 and 3241 are varifocals along with the 5442T-ZS and the 5442T-ZE.

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The 5442 series of cameras by Dahua is the current "king of the hill". They are 4MP and capable of color with some ambient light at night. The 2231 series is a less expensive alternative in 2MP and does not have audio capabilities, no built in microphone, but is easier on the budget. The 3241T-ZAS has similar spcs as the 2231 and has audio.

Price ranges are 5442, $150-200ea, 2231is around $125ea, 3241 is around $135ea.

What ever you buy, be sure to get a variifocal and not a fixed lens. A varifocal is not a true "zoom" camera but is designed to be "zoomed" and set at installation and left that way. The zoom mechanism is not built for constant use. The 2231 and 3241 are varifocals along with the 5442T-ZS and the 5442T-ZE.

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I assume I will need a NVR
Only need a 4 or 8 port one
 
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If you think you'll install four cameras get a sixteen port NVR or PoE switch if you use a VMS like Blue Iris.

Three rules
Rule #1 - Cameras multiply like rabbits.
Rule #2 - Cameras are more addictive than drugs.
Rule #3 - You never have enough cameras.
 
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