DanDenver
Getting comfortable
I gotta say that AI in cameras can be a good solution for sure, but for someone chasing the latest and greatest AI in a camera this could be a faulty approach in my opinion.
New cameras come out every year. Your cameras will be left on the technical spec roadside in just a few years
AI is very new to the security camera field on the whole. Improvements are constant.
Please note that after reading this thread I may have missed something, but what I read was someone who is:
A: budget concerned but at the same time
B: wants the best AI available.
But trying to buy the best AI in a camera means you will have to possibly replace the camera every 2 years or so - if you want to keep up with AI improvements.
One of the many improvements or refinements is facial recognition
For facial recognition, I agree, it is many years away from being useful.
I tried to use it in my garage to turn on my Sonos player when I entered the garage.
I would stare at the camera forever just to get the music playing.
It does work, I have ideal lighting and camera angle, but like others mentioned the success rate on first hit was about 5%-20%.
It could take about 15-30 seconds for it to finally recognize me and turn the music on. Sometimes I gave up!
The idea was that I would pull into the garage, exit my vehicle and my favorite music would start playing.
Once, my wife was taking out the trash and triggered the music to start - her face is no where in the system.
But overall it never worked very well, especially if I was not within 5 feet of the camera.
I set it up about 5 weeks ago. Now if I want to have the music turn on I have to exit my vehicle, walk over to the camera, make sure I am about 3-4 feet from the cameras, stare at it for about 20-40 seconds. Make sure that I keep moving while staring at the lens and then pray it might work. I have to keep moving since I have it set to run a facial scan every 1.5 seconds. So if you stop moving for very long at all it stops scanning your face. That routine got old.
AI still has many areas that need improvement - it is relatively new to the private security camera field.
DeepStack AI (used by Blue Iris) still thinks my neighborhood cat is a human sometimes at 2am when it crosses my driveway. I get an alert and it wakes both me and my wife up. Blue Iris itself as of this writing is in the middle of switching over to supporting an entirely new AI server for its AI needs.
Note that Blue Iris only supported DeepStack as its default AI for a scant 24 months!! Early adopters to the new AI moved over many months ago making that not even 19 months!
When a major improvement like that comes along for cameras, the only solution will be to purchase a new camera.
I only bring this up so that one can debate the long term versus short term benefits of wanting the best AI and having budget concerns as well.
New cameras come out every year. Your cameras will be left on the technical spec roadside in just a few years
AI is very new to the security camera field on the whole. Improvements are constant.
Please note that after reading this thread I may have missed something, but what I read was someone who is:
A: budget concerned but at the same time
B: wants the best AI available.
But trying to buy the best AI in a camera means you will have to possibly replace the camera every 2 years or so - if you want to keep up with AI improvements.
One of the many improvements or refinements is facial recognition
For facial recognition, I agree, it is many years away from being useful.
I tried to use it in my garage to turn on my Sonos player when I entered the garage.
I would stare at the camera forever just to get the music playing.
It does work, I have ideal lighting and camera angle, but like others mentioned the success rate on first hit was about 5%-20%.
It could take about 15-30 seconds for it to finally recognize me and turn the music on. Sometimes I gave up!
The idea was that I would pull into the garage, exit my vehicle and my favorite music would start playing.
Once, my wife was taking out the trash and triggered the music to start - her face is no where in the system.
But overall it never worked very well, especially if I was not within 5 feet of the camera.
I set it up about 5 weeks ago. Now if I want to have the music turn on I have to exit my vehicle, walk over to the camera, make sure I am about 3-4 feet from the cameras, stare at it for about 20-40 seconds. Make sure that I keep moving while staring at the lens and then pray it might work. I have to keep moving since I have it set to run a facial scan every 1.5 seconds. So if you stop moving for very long at all it stops scanning your face. That routine got old.
AI still has many areas that need improvement - it is relatively new to the private security camera field.
DeepStack AI (used by Blue Iris) still thinks my neighborhood cat is a human sometimes at 2am when it crosses my driveway. I get an alert and it wakes both me and my wife up. Blue Iris itself as of this writing is in the middle of switching over to supporting an entirely new AI server for its AI needs.
Note that Blue Iris only supported DeepStack as its default AI for a scant 24 months!! Early adopters to the new AI moved over many months ago making that not even 19 months!
When a major improvement like that comes along for cameras, the only solution will be to purchase a new camera.
I only bring this up so that one can debate the long term versus short term benefits of wanting the best AI and having budget concerns as well.
