Ukraine related: Was Ukraine Government Is Handing Out Guns To Citizens, What Happened to Gun Control?

Griswalduk

Getting comfortable
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
324
Reaction score
610
Location
Uk
Hi @tigerwillow1 your a good guy with 2500 odd posts, with a massive contribution and influence. You make the site great. By comparison my coat hasn't even stopped swinging yet.

Go with your gut instincts they have kept you right and will continue to keep you right :)

As regards the money, power, influence and motivation ......all i see is people being slaughtered and it don't need to happen.

Here's to yourself and ipcamtalk :)
 

mat200

IPCT Contributor
Joined
Jan 17, 2017
Messages
9,443
Reaction score
12,476
I've been thinking a lot more about this conflict on a longer term, and it is becoming clear that Russia is behaving more like Soviet / Nazi aggressors from WWII with the atrocities they are committing as well as with their propaganda and attitudes in society.

This is not going to end well if Russia emerges strong from the war, this is basically Poland 1939 ...

2014 was Sudetenland with Russia taking sections of the Donbas region and Crimea from Ukraine. Remember Russia forced those who were originally in Crimea to relocate .. Crimea historically has a larger number of Tartars compared to Russians ( it also had a significant Jewish population .. )

At this time, probably a good idea to find ways to reverse Russia's historical land grabs and find ways to reverse those in favor of the smaller Nations which Russia bullied.





1652558431316.png
 
Joined
Apr 25, 2022
Messages
17
Reaction score
5
Location
Moscow
1. I want to offer condolences regarding the mass shooting in Buffalo.
2. Below is a photo of Peyton Gendron, who reportedly carried out the shooting out of racist motives, and the emblem of the Azov Battalion, which Russia considers Nazis and the US believes to be freedom fighters.
 

Attachments

Last edited:
Joined
Aug 19, 2020
Messages
2,344
Reaction score
10,053
Location
San Antonio, TX
I just read about the shooting in Buffalo. Sad damn day and my prayers go out to those there were shot, injured, died as well to the family and friends that are affected by this. It's just terrible all around.
As for AG Garland saying they are investigating it as a hate crime, whether it is or not, I don't believe a damn thing he says. This administration is so politically motivated to support its agenda, they will rape the
truth and pervert it to their needs no matter what. THAT TRULY IS A DAMN SHAME.

And even if this POS coward is a member of the Azov Battalion or not, and even if Russia considers him a NAZI or not and Russia considers the Azov Bn NAZI's, Russia STILL HAD NO RIGHT to attack a sovereign nation. Period.
This isn't about NAZI's, its about land grab, and a certain short mans ego. IMO.
 

tigerwillow1

Known around here
Joined
Jul 18, 2016
Messages
2,469
Reaction score
4,582
I ran across this meme that's an example of why I say the US has no standing to be criticizing Russia.
capture.png

I don't want to be posting junk here and made an attempt to sanity check the 337,000 bombs claim. Here's a bit of what I found, mostly from New York Times, no less.
  • In Syria and Iraq, 1,000 strikes with 4,727 bombs and missiles.
  • In Syria, 70 civilians killed and a dam on the "no strike" list bombed
  • In Yemen, over 100 civilians killed with US made bomb dropped by Saudi Arabia
  • In Afghanistan, one strike killed 10 civilians including 7 children
Wouldn't the western governments be crying "war crimes" if these things were done by a non-western government?

I may have tripped across the source of data for the meme: ‘Hey, Hey, USA! How Many Bombs Did You Drop Today?’
Not a source I'd want to blindly trust. They claim the raw data is from US government sources. The same info appears on other sites, so hard to know where it first originated. The one defect in the meme is that the articles say the 337k bombs were dropped by the US and its allies.
 

Yesitsme

Getting the hang of it
Joined
May 7, 2021
Messages
16
Reaction score
26
Location
new jersey
The Russian excuse for starting the situation or operation as they call it is "where were you last eight years when Ukraine kept on provoking us"
I got news for you you invaded crimea eight years ago so naturally Ukraine will try to defend themselves and you will be watching your tail, like the theif that runs and thinks everyone is staring at him
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2014
Messages
1,500
Reaction score
5,388
Location
South Dakota
The Russian excuse for starting the situation or operation as they call it is "where were you last eight years when Ukraine kept on provoking us"
I got news for you you invaded crimea eight years ago so naturally Ukraine will try to defend themselves and you will be watching your tail, like the theif that runs and thinks everyone is staring at him
Ukraine is a horribly corrupt country from top to bottom. BUT-- If that is an excuse for invasion, then perhaps the US should invade Mexico..... (or the other way around??? LOL) Russia could have F'd with Ukraine any number of other ways instead of invading. Although--- seeing their utter incompetence on the battlefield has been enlightening.
 
Joined
Aug 19, 2020
Messages
2,344
Reaction score
10,053
Location
San Antonio, TX
Ukraine is a horribly corrupt country from top to bottom. BUT-- If that is an excuse for invasion, then perhaps the US should invade Mexico..... (or the other way around??? LOL) Russia could have F'd with Ukraine any number of other ways instead of invading. Although--- seeing their utter incompetence on the battlefield has been enlightening.
I don't know if Ukraine is or is not corrupt, but I would tend to think that there are parts of it that is from what I have read. Still, Russia had NO RIGHT to invade a sovereign nation. I will continue to say this over, and over. Now, if Ukraine had been conducting terror attacks on Russian soil, launching missiles or rockets across the border into Russia, etc, etc (think Israel) then yes, Russia should smite them. But I don't believe this was the case, or am I wrong?

A sovereign nation is a nation that has one centralized government that has the power to govern a specific geographic area. Under the definition set by international law, a sovereign nation has a defined territory with just one government.
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2014
Messages
1,500
Reaction score
5,388
Location
South Dakota
<snip>.... Still, Russia had NO RIGHT to invade a sovereign nation. I will continue to say this over, and over. Now, if Ukraine had been conducting terror attacks on Russian soil, launching missiles or rockets across the border into Russia, etc, etc (think Israel) then yes, Russia should smite them. But I don't believe this was the case, or am I wrong?

A sovereign nation is a nation that has one centralized government that has the power to govern a specific geographic area. Under the definition set by international law, a sovereign nation has a defined territory with just one government.
You 100% exactly NAILED IT!
 
Top