How To Upgrade Amcrest / Lorex to Dahua Firmware And Get All Dahua Features

wittaj said:
You will find that Amcrest and Lorex have been hardcoding the units to not allow updates to Dahua firmware. No idea if this camera is one of them, but it is new enough it could be.

But you do not want 8MP on a 1/2.8" sensor. The 2MP version on the same size sensor will kick the 8MP version butt all night long...
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I've been looking at 4k cameras lately and that research brought me to this thread for some reason. I've been very happy with my 5mp Amcrest cameras. I remember when 4k cams were first coming out, folks were saying 5mp units were better for night scenes. Guess that's still true somewhat?

The whole reason I was thinking of getting a 4k was to put up on my detached garage looking back at my house and back yard. The area is pretty well lit at night with dusk to dawn lights. House is 80-100ish feet from the garage. I put up a old no name 4mp I had in the parts bin just to see how it would look. I like the view of the back of the house and cars in the driveway, but it's not enough if I want to try to take a closer look and zoom in digitally in blueiris.

Sorry for the hijack. I probably should start a new thread just for this matter.
 
scoob8000 said:
I've been looking at 4k cameras lately and that research brought me to this thread for some reason. I've been very happy with my 5mp Amcrest cameras. I remember when 4k cams were first coming out, folks were saying 5mp units were better for night scenes. Guess that's still true somewhat?

The whole reason I was thinking of getting a 4k was to put up on my detached garage looking back at my house and back yard. The area is pretty well lit at night with dusk to dawn lights. House is 80-100ish feet from the garage. I put up a old no name 4mp I had in the parts bin just to see how it would look. I like the view of the back of the house and cars in the driveway, but it's not enough if I want to try to take a closer look and zoom in digitally in blueiris.

Sorry for the hijack. I probably should start a new thread just for this matter.
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80 to 100 feet of digital zoom with any fixed lens at night will be problematic. You would need a camera with a larger focal length to optically zoom in and set it.

Now with that said, the 4K/X on a larger 1/1.2" sensor would be a good overview choice with some digital zoom capabilities.
 
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wittaj said:
80 to 100 feet of digital zoom with any fixed lens at night will be problematic. You would need a camera with a larger focal length to optically zoom in and set it.

Now with that said, the 4K/X on a larger 1/1.2" sensor would be a good overview choice with some digital zoom capabilities.
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I know the rule of don't try to do too much with one camera. :)

I temporarily have it mounted just above my garage door about 9ft off the ground. Up close I have a great view of the driveway close to the garage and any cars close to it. Even got some good video of a buck wandering thru my yard the other night. I don't want to really give up that wide angle to see further. Seeing further is just to suppliment another cam I have on the house, looking towards the garage. So that's why I was kinda leaning towards more pixels.

I was looking at this guy, but I'm having a hard time justifying more than $100 or so to add yet another camera to my 9 cam system. :)
 
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rafimisterio said:
Greetings everyone! I hope you’re having a great day!

As of today, the IP5M-T1179EW with the “03-2022” manufacturing date cannot be downgraded to an older Amcrest version which then allowed it to be upgraded to the Dahua firmware. If you try the downgrade, it will brick after it’s done flashing the official firmware. Tested this on 3 cameras and all 3 bricked. Before the 03-2022 revision I flashed 80+ IP5M-T1179EW with almost zero fail rate.
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Do you mind if I ask where you purchased the IP5M-T1179EW from? I have an old one that I purchased in 2020 that I flashed to Dahua firmware successfully, and I was planning on buying a couple more from Amazon to do the same, so I'm wondering if Amazon has any older stock or if they're all newer ones that can't be cross-flashed.
 
I was discussing this with an IT mgr that has Lorex in about 14 stores. We kinda agreed if u want more pay the price for the extra. Not a great resolution, but we both agreed it may be the best way. After all, the physical installation at a large facility, say 64 cameras or more is to install a quality physical network.
 
pseudosphere said:
Do you mind if I ask where you purchased the IP5M-T1179EW from? I have an old one that I purchased in 2020 that I flashed to Dahua firmware successfully, and I was planning on buying a couple more from Amazon to do the same, so I'm wondering if Amazon has any older stock or if they're all newer ones that can't be cross-flashed.
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Got them all from amazon! every single order i've gotten so far has been the new 03-22 revision :(
 
observant1 said:
That's unfortunate. It's aso something I'd like a link or place to read more
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Not that i've rebranded a camera or nvr with a different firmware, but I know some of the members here are capable of manipulating the firmwar to gain a feature or unlock a feature.. I'm not that adventurous.
 
Has anyone figured a way to downgrade the Amcrest IP5M-T1179EW units to allow installation of an earlier firmware or swapping straight to the Dahua firmware? Very disappointed to find that both of my cameras also have a 03-2022 software build date and dont want to risk bricking them.

There has to be a way to bypass this restriction surely? Curious if anyone has done any digging into what it would take to override.
 
rafimisterio said:
Got them all from amazon! every single order i've gotten so far has been the new 03-22 revision :(
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@pseudosphere


I have 3 of them bought from amazon before 03-22 for sure (checked my purchase history) -- However, when I try to flash to Dahua firmware, its giving me an error that the package is invalid and I need to reboot immediately. Unfortunately, without thinking, I already upgraded it to the latest 2023 firmware from Amcrest. Not sure if this was a grave mistake that will prevent the camera to get upgraded to Dahua firmware forever.

So my next step is to downgrade it to an amcrest firmware that will allow me to upgrade to a Dahua.

Do you happen to know which older Amcrest firmware version it is?
 
stressedstrain said:
@Noloboy

i would be careful. lots of posts on this site that if you ever have an 03-22 or later firmware, downgrading or attempting the Dahua flash will brick the units.
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Thank you! So I guess most likely the culprit is the firmware and not the manufacturing date. I was really hoping to use to play with IVS + Blue Iris. I guess I'll stick with CPAI for now.
 
hello i have a Lorex - LNE8974AB ip 4k camera which is a IPC-HDW5830RN-Z equivalent, i've downloaded the Dahua firmware and tried updating the Lorex LNE via webui and the update keeps failing, which reboots the camera after each fail. is there something else am missing or is there another method of changing the Lorex to Dahua camera.
 
Can anyone help with this?
i have
Lorex LNE8974AB HWID
via web command
http://<IP ADDRESS>/cgi-bin/magicBox.cgi?action=getSystemInfo

appAutoStart=true
deviceType=LNE8974AB
hardwareVersion=1.00
processor=S3LM
serialNumber=ND011709076561
updateSerial=IPC-HDW5830RN-Z-S2

Matches Dahua camera
DH-IPC-HDW5830RN-Z
4K Eco-savvy 3.0 Series 8MP

I've downloaded the Dahua Firmwares from here

and tried updating the Lorex via Dahua Configtool & SmartPSS and the got message ipgrade failed and the Camera only rebooted.
is there a correct way or another way to do this?
 
I told you in the other thread after you got the NVR flashed to Dahua firmware that the Lorex cameras cannot be cross flashed. Only the NVR can. The cameras use a Lorex signed firmware that will only accept another Lorex specific firmware.
 
Dude - you don't have to ask the same question in 6 different threads that are not relevant.

Read thru this thread - at some point Amcrest and Dahua hardcoded it such that is wouldn't accept Dahua firmware.

I have loosely followed your own thread about it and it appears you have tried all the steps and it didn't work, so therefore you have a camera that you cannot flash with Dahua firmware.

Please do not clog up the forum with 6 posts of the same question.

Please delete your posts in other threads that are not relevant.
 
Replying in non-relevant threads is a good way to get slapped with the ignore feature and then nobody will see your threads.

You were given the answer previously and refuse to accept it. It will be the same response that others will now waste their time saying the same thing if they respond at all.
 
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