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Hi all,

By coincidence stumbled across this community, really interesting info!

We recently moved in a new house, and was looking for some camera's to monitor the (small) driveway as well as the backyard.
Have been browsing AliExpress for quite some time, but could not decide what to do.
And now I feel very lucky I didn't, as I learned that the (really) cheap Dahua models seem to have hacked (or at least modified) firmware... :)

Not sure if this is the right forum-section for these questions, but here goes.
Just to know, I have CAT-cables running to my garage from a POE-switch (Ubiquiti) in the house.

Driveway

The driveway is shared with my neighbours, but would like a camera to understand if anyone is/was on my part of the driveway.
Also, because our frontdoor is located at this driveway it would be interesting to understand whether people actually were at my door.

Here I was looking for a "regular" cam, nothing too fancy (no PTZ).
I would like to mount the cam directly to the area highlighted with the blue rectangle (as I can still go through the brickwall there easily).
The idea is to have a cam which does not stand out of the surrounding, so no big mounts and stuff.
(I could paint the housing black/brown to match the brick wall)

Driveway-photo.png

Driveway-situation.png

Backyard
As in the back of the house I have a sliding door (which might not be the most secure solution), I was also looking for a cam there.
The backyard ends up in a small stream and behind that there is a park, children playing, people having a walk, etc.

For this part I was looking for a cam which has PTZ and some basic zoom.

Backyard-situation.png

Backyard-photo1.png

Backyard-photo2.png

So far, I was thinking of

IPC-HDBW4231F-AS (US $118.43 6% OFF|Nieuwe collectie 2MP Starlight IR Mini Dome Network camera IPC HDBW4231F AS, gratis verzending DHL-in Beveiligingscamera´s van Veiligheid en bescherming op AliExpress) for the driveway.
And
SD22204UE-GN (US $154.35 6% OFF|Nieuwe Model SD22204UE GN 2MP 4x Starlight PTZ Network Camera, gratis verzending DHL-in Beveiligingscamera´s van Veiligheid en bescherming op AliExpress)

Any comment is appreciated!
 
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Welcome to IPCT.

If you haven't already done so, please check the Wiki, in the blue title bar, and be sure to read the Cliff Notes in it. Personally, I'd use two cameras at the rear, one for over view and one for watching the sliding door and rear windows and arrange them so they watch each other, too, rather than a PTZ. PTZ cameras always end up looking in the wrong direction at the wrong time. The driveway camera is relatively simple and anywhere on your garage will work, but don't mount any of them above seven feet or so.

I'd also suggest you contact Andy, EmpireTechAndy, here on IPCT rather than just buying from Ali Express. He stands behind what he sells, his cameras are "International" and can be upgraded as new firmware becomes available. His shipping, on a worldwide basis, is very fast as well. Unfortunately, it's Chinese New Year and everything over there has basically shut down for the duration, say the 1st of February.

You'll probably find cameras end up as a growing "need" once you start with them.
 

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Use IPC-HDW5231R-ZE black is good to go, and a SD1A203T-GN with a PFB203W black, this one need some drilling, make a DIY to install.
Then can be good.
 

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Hi all,

By coincidence stumbled across this community, really interesting info!

We recently moved in a new house, and was looking for some camera's to monitor the (small) driveway as well as the backyard.
Have been browsing AliExpress for quite some time, but could not decide what to do.
And now I feel very lucky I didn't, as I learned that the (really) cheap Dahua models seem to have hacked (or at least modified) firmware... :)

Not sure if this is the right forum-section for these questions, but here goes.
Just to know, I have CAT-cables running to my garage from a POE-switch (Ubiquiti) in the house.

Driveway

The driveway is shared with my neighbours, but would like a camera to understand if anyone is/was on my part of the driveway.
Also, because our frontdoor is located at this driveway it would be interesting to understand whether people actually were at my door.

Here I was looking for a "regular" cam, nothing too fancy (no PTZ).
I would like to mount the cam directly to the area highlighted with the blue rectangle (as I can still go through the brickwall there easily).
The idea is to have a cam which does not stand out of the surrounding, so no big mounts and stuff.
(I could paint the housing black/brown to match the brick wall)

View attachment 53938

View attachment 53939

Backyard
As in the back of the house I have a sliding door (which might not be the most secure solution), I was also looking for a cam there.
The backyard ends up in a small stream and behind that there is a park, children playing, people having a walk, etc.

For this part I was looking for a cam which has PTZ and some basic zoom.

View attachment 53940

View attachment 53941

View attachment 53942

So far, I was thinking of

IPC-HDBW4231F-AS (US $118.43 6% OFF|Nieuwe collectie 2MP Starlight IR Mini Dome Network camera IPC HDBW4231F AS, gratis verzending DHL-in Beveiligingscamera´s van Veiligheid en bescherming op AliExpress) for the driveway.
And
SD22204UE-GN (US $154.35 6% OFF|Nieuwe Model SD22204UE GN 2MP 4x Starlight PTZ Network Camera, gratis verzending DHL-in Beveiligingscamera´s van Veiligheid en bescherming op AliExpress)

Any comment is appreciated!
Welcome @Fried

Wished you had posted here before the brickwork went up, as that would have made the job easier.

I really like this camera at eye level by the doors / entrances - ideally best when you have enough light around to keep the camera in full color mode all the time ( to avoid IR light bounce back issues with dome cameras )
Nieuwe collectie 2MP Starlight IR Mini Dome Network camera IPC-HDBW4231F-AS, gratis verzending DHL

For other cameras see the reviews that SouthernYankee has links to in his welcome post. The 4MP starlight+ models look interesting.
 

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Use IPC-HDW5231R-ZE black is good to go, and a SD1A203T-GN with a PFB203W black, this one need some drilling, make a DIY to install.
Then can be good.
With "good to go" you mean that I can wall-mount this one directly (without bracket)?
- The garage, front and back, is quite thin, it should be possible to run the connector through a hole.


I have the same question for the SD1A203T-GN.
I really like the discrete look, would hate to make it much bigger by adding the mounts...
 

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With "good to go" you mean that I can wall-mount this one directly (without bracket)?
- The garage, front and back, is quite thin, it should be possible to run the connector through a hole.


I have the same question for the SD1A203T-GN.
I really like the discrete look, would hate to make it much bigger by adding the mounts...
PFB203W drill some holes, then can work with the SD1A203T-GN, there has some guys do this on the forum.
 

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:welcome:
My standard welcome to the forum message.

Please read the IP Cam Talk Cliff Notes and other items in the IP Cam Talk Wiki. (read on a real computer, not a phone). The wiki is in the blue bar at the top of the page.

Read How to Secure Your Network (Don't Get Hacked!) in the wiki also.

Quick start
1) If you do not have a wired monitored alarm system, get that first
2) Use Dahua starlight cameras or Hikvision darkfighter cameras if you need good low light cameras.
3) use a VPN to access home network (openVPN)
4) Do not use wifi cameras.
5) Do not use cloud storage
6) Do Not use uPNP, P2P, QR, do not open ports,
7) More megapixel is not necessarily better.
8) Avoid chinese hacked cameras (most ebay, amazon, aliexpress cameras(not all, but most))
9) Do not use reolink, ring, nest, Arlo cameras (they are junk), no cloud cameras
10) If possible use a turret camera , bullet collect spiders, dome collect dirt and reflect light (IR)
11) Use only solid copper, AWG 23 or 24 ethernet wire. , no CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum)
12) use a test mount to verify the camera mount location. My test rig: rev.2
13) (Looney2ns)If you want to be able to ID faces, don't mount cams higher than 7ft. You want to know who did it, not just what happened.
14) Use a router that has openVPN built in (Most ASUS, Some NetGear....)
15) camera placement use the calculator... IPVM Camera Calculator V3
16) POE list PoE Switch Suggestion List
17) Camera Sensor size, bigger is general better Sensor Size Chart


Cameras to look at
IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED . Review IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED (Full Color, Starlight+) - 4MP starlight
.................... Dahua IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED review
IPC-T5442TM-AS ..... Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+ - 4MP starlight+
IPC-B5442E-ZE ......
Review - OEM IPC-B5442E-ZE 4MP AI Varifocal Bullet Camera With Starlight+
IPC-T2347G-LU ...... Review of the Hikvision OEM model IPC-T2347G-LU 'ColorVu' IP CCTV camera. (DS-2CD2347G1-LU)
IPC-HDW2231R-ZS .... Review-Dahua IPC-HDW2231RP-ZS Starlight Camera-Varifocal
IPC-HDW2231T-ZS-S2 . Review-OEM IPC-T2231T-ZS 2mp Varifocal Starlight Camera
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE .... Review-Dahua Starlight IPC-HDW5231R-ZE 800 meter capable ePOE
IPC-HFW4239T-ASE ... IPC-HFW4239T-ASE
IPCT-HDW5431RE-I ... Review - IP Cam Talk 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera
IPC-T5241H-AS-PV ... Review-OEM IPC-T5241H-AS-PV 2mp AI active deterrence cam
DS-2CD2325FWD-I
N22AL12 ............ New Dahua N22AL12 Budget Cam w/Starlight -- low cost entry

Other dahua 4MP starlight Dahua 4MP Starlight Lineup

My preferred indoor cameras
DS-2CD2442FWD-IW
IPC-K35A Review-Dahua IPC-K35A 3mp Cube Camera

If interested in Blue Iris and other setup items see the following post


Read,study,plan before spending money ..... plan plan plan
Test do not guess
 

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if you are interested in International Dahua cameras, a forum member sells dahua (and some Hikvision) and ships world wide. You can read some of the members recommendations on his service. He also provides cameras to other forum member for evaluation and reviews.
You can email him for a quote, or purchase from his Aliexpress store or his Amazon store. The cameras are fully upgradable, he posts upgrade software when available.

Current supply may be limited do to the Coronavirus

Note: He posted above ^^^^^

Andy
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Andy's ipcamtalk vendor forum: EmpireTech Andy
Andy's AliExpress store: Empire Technology Co., Ltd - Amazing prodcuts with exclusive discounts on AliExpress
Andy's Amazon store: EmpireTech-Andy @ Amazon.com:
forum: EmpireTech Andy
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