Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

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I believe PHARMA is pushing to make as many "sales" before the emergency use is dropped, then they become liable, that is why they are pushing to get as many as they can vaxed now, even those under 5 years old.

A friend that wasn't vaxed got the Delta variant about 8 months ago and just recently, he got exposed at a meeting elsewhere (many people from around the country at meeting) and now has it again, most likely the BA.5 variant. Another friend at same meeting was unvaxed, but never infected got it too. And heard from others in my industry that got vaxed and boostered getting Omicron too. I think they were going to come out with a vax booster that would target Omicron (along with other variants), but not sure if they did and how effective it is.

I had BA.2, which was very mild for me, while others seemed more affected (even people I know are younger and more healthy than me). Maybe taking extra vit D, NAC and Quercetin+C helped.
 

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I believe PHARMA is pushing to make as many "sales" before the emergency use is dropped, then they become liable, that is why they are pushing to get as many as they can vaxed now, even those under 5 years old.

A friend that wasn't vaxed got the Delta variant about 8 months ago and just recently, he got exposed at a meeting elsewhere (many people from around the country at meeting) and now has it again, most likely the BA.5 variant. Another friend at same meeting was unvaxed, but never infected got it too. And heard from others in my industry that got vaxed and boostered getting Omicron too. I think they were going to come out with a vax booster that would target Omicron (along with other variants), but not sure if they did and how effective it is.

I had BA.2, which was very mild for me, while others seemed more affected (even people I know are younger and more healthy than me). Maybe taking extra vit D, NAC and Quercetin+C helped.
I agree, Big Pharma will need all that money for future law suits...

Question, the guy who got Delta, did he get Vaxxed after he got Delta?

Reason I ask is I have noticed many who got Covid and were not Vaxxed have not got Covid again. Some got it in the beginning, not sure which strand, before the Shot was available, others I know got it later and several I know got it at the end of last year/beginning of this year, that's when I got it.
Pretty much everyone I know who are unVaxxed are taking Vit. C & D, Zinc, and other Supplements, even those I know who got the Shot are too...

When my wife and I got it, guessing Omicron, our Doctor said they could not tell us which strand, they just guessed, we both had cold like symptoms, I had fever and my wife did not, had we not tested we would of shrugged it off as a Cold. Only difference was we both experienced fatigue for a few weeks after our symptoms, which our symptoms only lasted 3 days, for my wife, for me it was a bit different. After 3 days of fever for me I had zero fever, then two days later my fever came back but for only one day. Oh yeah, for me my Oxygen level did drop into the high 80s (during the fever days), I tested daily (oximeter) my saturated oxygen levels. Weird thing was I had No breathing issues, no shortness of breathe. During the few weeks after during the fatigue I did experience times when I breathed a bit harder but my Oxygen levels were in the Mid 90s, this is my Norm, 95-97.

Of course this is all about the testing, I know about a hand full who tested positive then went a retested that day or the next day and tested negative. One family member went to their Doctor after testing positive and the Doc said she has a sinus infection, go and get retested, he sent her to site he said did proper testing, she tested negative, she was unVaxxed and she already had Covid prior...
 

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Question, the guy who got Delta, did he get Vaxxed after he got Delta?
No, he never got vaxed, since already had the anti-bodies from it, which was they said was better than getting a vax shot. He assumed it was Delta, as it was before Omicron started spreading. Seems like the older variants (Alpha, Beta...Delta) and vax shots for them, didn't seem to prevent Omicron.

I started sore throat, headache a bit later, a day later sinus issues, and then it went upper lungs, along with some fatigue. Lasted about 3 days, one other thing I did is sleep most of the time, while my friend cycled with doing work, get fatigued, slept for an hour or two and then back to work on his computer. Wife told him to stop working, sleep it off and sweat it out, but he didn't.

I think the emergency use protects Pharma from liability for vax shots taking during that time, but once it is lifted, any shot after it is where they become liable.
 

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No, he never got vaxed, since already had the anti-bodies from it, which was they said was better than getting a vax shot. He assumed it was Delta, as it was before Omicron started spreading. Seems like the older variants (Alpha, Beta...Delta) and vax shots for them, didn't seem to prevent Omicron.

I started sore throat, headache a bit later, a day later sinus issues, and then it went upper lungs, along with some fatigue. Lasted about 3 days, one other thing I did is sleep most of the time, while my friend cycled with doing work, get fatigued, slept for an hour or two and then back to work on his computer. Wife told him to stop working, sleep it off and sweat it out, but he didn't.

I think the emergency use protects Pharma from liability for vax shots taking during that time, but once it is lifted, any shot after it is where they become liable.
Yeah I slept good those 3 days...

Not saying he does not have it but I would get tested at a few places, definitely beware of those home test...In early Spring I got a sinus infection, happens every year for me, no fever or just 99 at most, it lasted about a month, a lot of drainage and tired feeling, you know, The Crud :) Went to the Doc and got a Steroid shot, which last about 2 days but it sure gives you a boost, was able to get a lot done with the shot :) I also get a Sinus infection around the end of the year too, every year, so when it happened last year, if it were not for the fever I would not of suspected Covid. Doubt I will get tested anymore unless I have fever...
 

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FDA Panel Votes to Waive Clinical Trials for New COVID Boosters

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) vaccine advisory panel on Tuesday voted 19 to 2 to recommend new COVID-19 booster shots that include the Omicron variant this fall.

The FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) did not issue guidance on whether additional data would be needed to recommend an updated composition of the primary-series vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S., or whether it would be appropriate to continue to use a primary-series vaccine as a booster.

It is the first time VRBPAC has suggested vaccine makers modify their vaccines to target a different variant, according to CNBC, which also reported the FDA will likely accept the committee’s recommendation.

If so, the FDA would be authorizing a vaccine change without requiring additional data showing a bivalent vaccine — containing both the original 2019 Wuhan variant and one of the Omicron variants — is safe and effective for those age groups that are already authorized to receive a booster dose.

FDA Panel Votes to Waive Clinical Trials for New COVID Boosters • Children's Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org)

My comment: What could possibly go wrong?
 

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FDA Panel Votes to Waive Clinical Trials for New COVID Boosters

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) vaccine advisory panel on Tuesday voted 19 to 2 to recommend new COVID-19 booster shots that include the Omicron variant this fall.

The FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) did not issue guidance on whether additional data would be needed to recommend an updated composition of the primary-series vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S., or whether it would be appropriate to continue to use a primary-series vaccine as a booster.

It is the first time VRBPAC has suggested vaccine makers modify their vaccines to target a different variant, according to CNBC, which also reported the FDA will likely accept the committee’s recommendation.

If so, the FDA would be authorizing a vaccine change without requiring additional data showing a bivalent vaccine — containing both the original 2019 Wuhan variant and one of the Omicron variants — is safe and effective for those age groups that are already authorized to receive a booster dose.

FDA Panel Votes to Waive Clinical Trials for New COVID Boosters • Children's Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org)

My comment: What could possibly go wrong?
This is what I was asking about. Watch the weird $hit start to happen now.
 
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Much like the FBI, the FDA is a joke. They do not have your best interest in mind. They are criminals.
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FDA Panel Advisor Admits Agency "LOST" Clinical Trial Data for Placebo Group Before Approving Experimental Vaccine for Babies and Toddlers (Video)

This inexcusable act of criminal malpractice was confirmed this month by the team leader of the FDA’s clinical review staff, Rachel Zhang, who explained during an advisory panel zoom call that the agency had lost the results from the placebo group during its clinical trials related to the decision to approve the experimental jab for America’s youngest children.

Without this data from the placebo group, the effectiveness of the vaccine cannot be measured against those who did not receive the treatment. Therefore, the clinical trial is meaningless. But the gaping hole in the results apparently doesn’t matter to the ‘experts’ at the FDA, who went ahead with the EUA approval anyway.

“There is no efficacy data,” Zhang explained. “I guess it will have to come from real-world effectiveness,” she added glibly.

In other words, babies and toddlers are essentially vaccine guinea pigs that will provide the lost data. Remember, Zheng is the team leader of the FDA’s clinical review staff, which oversees the approval of new medical treatments.

From Zheng:

“…We have lost the placebo groups, so we cannot really say anything about the duration of vaccine efficacy after that.
There’s no more efficacy data, basically, after that time point. So, unfortunately, we are limited to – in this study – would be the results that we have shown you in the slide with the data cut off. The latest one [placebo group data] would be the May 31st one, and that still is, unfortunately, very few cases…

I guess it will have to come from real-world effectiveness.
How does something like this even happen? They don’t even have to come up with a viable excuse anymore. This is literally on par with the old ‘dog ate my homework’ line. What a joke.
 

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The Biden administration said it has signed a new agreement with Pfizer and partner BioNTech for 105 million doses of their COVID-19 vaccine for a fall vaccination campaign, with the deal worth $3.2 billion.

(Plus 10% for the Big Guy)

All part of the plandemic Part2 scheduled for October/November. Next up, nationwide mail in voting with no verification…. All in the interest of “the science”.
 

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The Biden administration said it has signed a new agreement with Pfizer and partner BioNTech for 105 million doses of their COVID-19 vaccine for a fall vaccination campaign, with the deal worth $3.2 billion.

(Plus 10% for the Big Guy)

All part of the plandemic Part2 scheduled for October/November. Next up, nationwide mail in voting with no verification…. All in the interest of “the science”.
Is this for future versions of the virus no one knows about yet?
 

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Pick any major story of the past three years - e.g. Lab Leak, Jussie Smollett, Russiagate, Ukrainian Biolabs, Ivermectin, Hospitalizations From COVID v. With Covid, January 6th, ‘Transitory’ Inflation, and of course Hunter’s Laptop - and you will find absolutely hysterical narrative pushing up front followed by retractions, corrections, and outright denials as reality became undeniable.

In the meanwhile, our civilization was ripped apart, our citizens were gaslit and impoverished, and in countries across the Western world, innocent people were removed from polite society, branded as lepers, and fired from their jobs.

Why? Because there is one story that just won’t die and for which no corrections have been issued - the shibboleth that vaccination can prevent infection, transmission, and help “end” COVID.

While there is never an excuse for hateful rhetoric towards, and intervention in, the personal medical choices of law-abiding Americans, perhaps one could have, kinda sorta, understood the campaign if the new vaccines had provided long-lasting immunity and prevented community transmission. They do not.

Early on we were told: “Nine out of ten [vaccinated] people won’t get sick” (Columbia University feat. Run-DMC, February 12th, 2021, no this is not a joke); “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don`t get sick” (Dr. Rochelle Walensky, March 29th, 2021); “When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, May 17th, 2021).

And by mid-summer, 2021, we were still being told that unequivocally, these vaccines were a resounding success worthy of uncritical support. On July 27th in Scientific American, Dr. Eric Topol wrote, “Vaccination is the closest thing to a sure thing we have in this pandemic.” Not to be outdone, Dr. Anthony Fauci of the NIAID told CBS on August 1st, that the unvaccinated were responsible for “propagating this outbreak.”

But on July 29th, 2021, the Washington Post reported a scoop that the CDC was privately acknowledging that the vaccinated could spread COVID as easily as the unvaccinated. Occasionally, they are forced to report inconvenient facts. And August 5th, CDC Director Walensky told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that, “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death — they prevent it. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.”


While there is a mountain of medical literature available demonstrating quite clearly the failure of these vaccines to prevent infection and transmission, the August 5th declaration from the CDC Director should have made clear that being vaccinated is contributing in no way to the safety of others, nor to the eradication of this virus.

In fact, Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz was even caught on tape in September of last year explaining that the use of the Israeli Green Pass wasn’t intended to make a difference epidemiologically, but because it would help convince people to get vaccinated. And even vaccine poobah Bill Gates admitted in a late 2021 interview, that, “We got vaccines to help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmissions.”

So there should be no question that continuing to suggest in any way that these shots are a panacea, and that those who refused to get them were plague spreaders, should have been thoroughly trashed by Fall 2021.

Nonetheless, on September 24th President Joe Biden coined his now famous phrase “a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” To our north, Prime Minister Trudeau called the unvaccinated science deniers, misogynists, and racists, and asked rhetorically whether Canadians should “tolerate” them.

And during the first week of January 2022, while kicking the unvaccinated out of French daily life and public spaces, French President Emmanuel Macron said he wanted the measures to “piss off” his unvaccinated citizens. With world leaders speaking this way, it’s no wonder so many Blue Check™ elites took up the banner!

Prominent media figures like Amy Siskind, Pulitzer Prize winner Gene Weingarten, and more have come out of the woodwork in recent months to share with us their enthusiasm for medical discrimination. Noted neurotic Howard Stern is all in on forced vaccination due to what must be his own debilitating fear of his mortality. Bill Kristol says the unvaccinated have “blood on their hands.”

David Frum, heir to Maimonides, writes, “Let the hospitals quietly triage emergency care to serve the unvaccinated last.” Charles M. Blow was “furious” at the unvaccinated. CNN contributor Dr. Leana Wen suggested that the unvaccinated should not be allowed to leave their homes. The Ragin’ Cajun even wants to punch the unvaccinated in the face!

All of the above links/stories were posted after Dr. Walensky’s unequivocal announcement that the vaccines do not prevent transmission.

And all of the self-satisfied segregationists are supported in their vitriol by the Blue Checks™ of the Medical Establishment, like Dr. Paul Klotman, President and Executive Dean of the Baylor School of Medicine, who said on camera back in January that he isn’t polite to friends and family who aren’t vaccinated. “Keep them away. I don’t do it respectfully, I tell them to stay away, and teach them a lesson.” Less vitriolic but equally problematic, the WHO’s COVID-19 “technical lead” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove continued to push the lie that vaccination can prevent outbreaks as recently as January 26th, 2022. She is, as well, a Blue Check™. And yes, Dr. Anthony Fauci is still at it, even as of April 14th, 2022, telling MSNBC that harsh Chinese lockdowns could be used to get the population vaccinated so that “When you open up, you won’t have a surge of infections.”

The examples are legion. Blue Checks, Medical Blue Checks, Times Columnists, Radio Jocks, Presidents, and Prime Ministers have all espoused misinformation and/or hate speech regarding vaccination status. But they are all given intellectual cover by the official reporting of the fourth estate. Even in the face of all the evidence that there is no epidemiological basis for discrimination, our intellectual betters in the legacy media press onward the canard.

On August 26th, the Toronto Star ran an article entitled, “When it comes to empathy for the unvaccinated, many of us aren’t feeling it.” Then, on December 22nd, published an explainer which stated that two doses won’t stop you from spreading COVID-19. Comme ci, comme ca.

Back in February, MSNBC political contributor Matthew Dowd shared his insight that the unvaccinated do not believe in the United States Constitution, because if they did, they would get vaccinated for “We The People.” For the common good.

An examination of the New York Times reveals three articles written this year which overtly continue supporting the idea that the vaccines prevent transmission. First, on January 29th in a piece entitled, “As Covid Shots For Kids Stall, Appeals Are Aimed At Wary Parents,” the author cites “public health officials” who say that to aid in “containing” the pandemic, kids must also be vaccinated. (It is worth mentioning that the current vaccines and boosters being distributed were designed in February 2020 to provide an immune response to a version of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein circulating prior to that, not entirely similar to what is circulating now.)

Then February 23rd, in a hit piece on the Surgeon General of Florida Dr. Joe Ladapo, the Times writes, “When public health officials across the country were urging vaccines as a way to end the pandemic, Dr. Ladapo was raising warning flags about possible side effects and cautioning that even vaccinated people could spread the virus.”

So, Dr. Ladapo was correct?

Finally, in a piece about Novak Djokovic published March 3rd, they write, “Djokovic was the only player ranked in the top 100 in Australia who had not received a Covid-19 vaccination, which experts have long said will not eradicate the virus unless most of the population receives one.”

They do not address the question of how a vaccine which does not prevent transmission can eradicate a virus. And they won’t. As Israeli Health Minister Horowitz candidly admitted, none of this is about epidemiology.

And even when mainstream media tacitly acknowledges the failures of the vaccines to prevent transmission, they skillfully elide the significance of this fact in order to allow them to continue to scapegoat the unvaccinated. In a dazzling display of sophistry, Time Magazine moved the Overton window in this January 12th, 2022 piece, “These Charts Show That COVID-19 Is Still A Pandemic of the Unvaccinated.”

The author states that due to the rapidly narrowing gap between cases in the vaccinated and unvaccinated, some readers might think that the phrase “pandemic of the unvaccinated” is no longer justifiable. But with the grace of a ballerina, Time goes on to tell us that because the vaccines are still showing efficacy against severe illness, the phrase is still kosher. If an unvaccinated person gets sicker than his vaccinated neighbor who contracted COVID at a fully vaccinated wedding, that unvaccinated person is still the problem!

New York Magazine isn’t lacking in similar gymnastics. On February 16th of this year, Matt Stieb published a piece entitled, “Is Kyrie Irving Going to Get Away With It?” Irving is the Brooklyn Nets player who famously chose not to be vaccinated, and has become a fetish object for the Covidian Left. Stieb acknowledges that Irving’s vaccinated teammates were getting COVID at such high rates that it forced Nets management to allow Irving back to play in away games but still calls the New York City ban on unvaccinated athletes “a rare public health mandate with real teeth.”

Just seven days later on February 23rd, Will Leitch, in the same publication, sighs, “Unfortunately, It’s Time to Let Kyrie Irving Play in New York.” He outlines all the reasons why epidemiologically it makes no sense to prevent athletes like Irving and Novak Djokovic from participating, but says, “It would feel like they got away with all their bullshit.” And also, they are “annoying.”

And this barely concealed hatred for the unvaccinated from media and government and Big Tech—even in the rare moments when writers such as Leitch acknowledge the failure of the vaccines to prevent transmission—has real consequences. People have lost their jobs. People have been arrested for trying to go to a movie theater.

Families got kicked out of restaurants, and patrons either cheered or remained indifferent, which is worse. A teenage boy at an uber-progressive and expensive Chicago prep school committed suicide after being bullied over an incorrect rumor he was unvaccinated. The stench of bad journalism rots people’s basic decency.

A January Rasmussen poll found that, Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine…Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine…”

As well as, “Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.” Unfortunately, these disturbing results are politically lopsided, but it’s no surprise when you consider who the readers of most legacy media platforms are.

The saddest thing is that these media outlets and their flag bearers really think their readers are all morons.The New York Times believes that, in the midst of the Omicron wave as boosted person after boosted person was getting COVID, they could tell you these particular vaccines are still the way to eradicate this thing, and expect you to deny reality and nod your head.

It calls to mind the quote attributed to Solzhenitsyn (or Elena Gorokhova), “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they’re lying, they know we know they’re lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”

We have ceded the better angels of our common cerebrum to people who may not have our best interests at heart, and a sycophantic laptop class who gleefully endorses their diktats and “fact-checks.” Collectively: Sophistry Inc.

Their behavior, endorsed by every single entity which holds power in our society, is destroying us, and has already poisoned us such that there may be no antidote. Yes, first they came for the unvaccinated, but that doesn’t mean they won’t come for you next.
 
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