Dahua Ultra Starlight Varifocal Bullet (IPC-HFW8232E-Z)

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HA! Hardly fancy...pretty middle of the road for sure. Just a quite little neighborhood.
One can only guess? maybe he works at the same place many of the folks who live in the ghetto down the road work? They all seem to have new Audi's and BMW"s and such, (frequently a different car every week or so ...hmmm) plenty of gold hanging on their necks, and like him, don't seem to have day jobs. I should ask him, sounds like my kinda work ;)
nice hi-point by the way.
 
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I don't understand how people live in areas with HOA's. If someone told me I could only put a bullet style camera and not a dome style camera on a house I own and pay for, I would install a dome style camera just because they said I couldn't.

So I guess you couldn't install the turret style camera on the outside of your house? It's smaller than the bullet style for this particular camera.
Yeah even though it's smaller in this instance it's the motion that's the issue. We decided to not allow models that have visible motion (pan and tilt) to be mounted to the outside. Part of that was about harmony between neighbors. Since these are townhouses we would be dealing with reports of neighbors pointing their camera at their neighbors yard and "spying" on them instead of watching their own property. Having a fixed position allows neighbors to feel more comfortable about a camera next door and provides a more objective framework to adjudicate the issue of privacy from.

Almost all of the neighborhoods in some areas are HOA. There's a 95%+ chance there will be an HOA if you buy a house in my area. So in that respect there isn't much of a choice. Yes we do tell people what they can and can't put on the houses they pay for but the "we" should mean the collective group that can vote on these things if the like/dislike them.

There are some pluses to HOAs too. We keep awful and disgusting activities away from your house. There will be no dump truck parked overnight on the street in front of your house. There won't be a yard full of trash next door. For me the main bonus is the ability to have private property around the neighborhood. Since we have an HOA we can own the streets, sidewalks, and recreation space in the neighborhood. That means random people should not be cutting through, soliciting, using our very nice playground, tennis court, parking on our streets, or setting foot inside our boundaries. I highly value our private island, which I have the privilege of protecting, over the limitations of the exterior building modifications. I tell people they are trespassing and to get out all the time. If somebody is ever doing something weird that wouldn't necessarily be considered illegal (hanging around at night, walking around suspiciously, picking through our trash late at night before trash pickup in the morning) I call the cops and have them kicked out. At first the police tell me they aren't breaking the law but then I always have to explain to them that it doesn't matter what they are doing they are trespassing and the cops finally get it that it's private property and then come out and take care of it. I have a much more beautiful and safer neighborhood due to the fact that it's all private property.

I also very much understand how easy it is to become a tyrant. I worry about that a lot. I try my best to treat everybody as fairly as possible and only use force as a last resort. I am able to make changes that benefit the lives of the residents much faster than they would ever get out of a city official. I can fix problems with snow removal, requests for a new street light, repairs to facilities, etc. in an instant with the stroke of a pen.
 

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Yeah even though it's smaller in this instance it's the motion that's the issue. We decided to not allow models that have visible motion (pan and tilt) to be mounted to the outside. Part of that was about harmony between neighbors. Since these are townhouses we would be dealing with reports of neighbors pointing their camera at their neighbors yard and "spying" on them instead of watching their own property. Having a fixed position allows neighbors to feel more comfortable about a camera next door and provides a more objective framework to adjudicate the issue of privacy from.

Almost all of the neighborhoods in some areas are HOA. There's a 95%+ chance there will be an HOA if you buy a house in my area. So in that respect there isn't much of a choice. Yes we do tell people what they can and can't put on the houses they pay for but the "we" should mean the collective group that can vote on these things if the like/dislike them.

There are some pluses to HOAs too. We keep awful and disgusting activities away from your house. There will be no dump truck parked overnight on the street in front of your house. There won't be a yard full of trash next door. For me the main bonus is the ability to have private property around the neighborhood. Since we have an HOA we can own the streets, sidewalks, and recreation space in the neighborhood. That means random people should not be cutting through, soliciting, using our very nice playground, tennis court, parking on our streets, or setting foot inside our boundaries. I highly value our private island, which I have the privilege of protecting, over the limitations of the exterior building modifications. I tell people they are trespassing and to get out all the time. If somebody is ever doing something weird that wouldn't necessarily be considered illegal (hanging around at night, walking around suspiciously, picking through our trash late at night before trash pickup in the morning) I call the cops and have them kicked out. At first the police tell me they aren't breaking the law but then I always have to explain to them that it doesn't matter what they are doing they are trespassing and the cops finally get it that it's private property and then come out and take care of it. I have a much more beautiful and safer neighborhood due to the fact that it's all private property.

I also very much understand how easy it is to become a tyrant. I worry about that a lot. I try my best to treat everybody as fairly as possible and only use force as a last resort. I am able to make changes that benefit the lives of the residents much faster than they would ever get out of a city official. I can fix problems with snow removal, requests for a new street light, repairs to facilities, etc. in an instant with the stroke of a pen.

It's kind of like gun control though, the only people who follow those rules are the people who live there, thieves and drug dealers will not care about such rules so they are kind of pointless. Your private property is a total dream. Again, criminals don't give a damn. Can you call the cops? Sure, but by the time they show up you could already be robbed, beaten, etc. The only thing that really keeps your neighborhood nice is gentrification, if the neighborhood's cheapest house is 250k, you're not going to have people living there who work at mcdonalds. But I digress, if it makes you happy, have at it. I prefer to have total control over the house and property I pay for, and I take responsibility for my own security and safety because you can't carry a cop everywhere you go. Oh yeah, funny you say it's private property, you think you own it? Try not paying your property taxes and see who really owns it, hahahaha.
 

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Yeah even though it's smaller in this instance it's the motion that's the issue. We decided to not allow models that have visible motion (pan and tilt) to be mounted to the outside. Part of that was about harmony between neighbors. Since these are townhouses we would be dealing with reports of neighbors pointing their camera at their neighbors yard and "spying" on them instead of watching their own property. Having a fixed position allows neighbors to feel more comfortable about a camera next door and provides a more objective framework to adjudicate the issue of privacy from.

Almost all of the neighborhoods in some areas are HOA. There's a 95%+ chance there will be an HOA if you buy a house in my area. So in that respect there isn't much of a choice. Yes we do tell people what they can and can't put on the houses they pay for but the "we" should mean the collective group that can vote on these things if the like/dislike them.

There are some pluses to HOAs too. We keep awful and disgusting activities away from your house. There will be no dump truck parked overnight on the street in front of your house. There won't be a yard full of trash next door. For me the main bonus is the ability to have private property around the neighborhood. Since we have an HOA we can own the streets, sidewalks, and recreation space in the neighborhood. That means random people should not be cutting through, soliciting, using our very nice playground, tennis court, parking on our streets, or setting foot inside our boundaries. I highly value our private island, which I have the privilege of protecting, over the limitations of the exterior building modifications. I tell people they are trespassing and to get out all the time. If somebody is ever doing something weird that wouldn't necessarily be considered illegal (hanging around at night, walking around suspiciously, picking through our trash late at night before trash pickup in the morning) I call the cops and have them kicked out. At first the police tell me they aren't breaking the law but then I always have to explain to them that it doesn't matter what they are doing they are trespassing and the cops finally get it that it's private property and then come out and take care of it. I have a much more beautiful and safer neighborhood due to the fact that it's all private property.

I also very much understand how easy it is to become a tyrant. I worry about that a lot. I try my best to treat everybody as fairly as possible and only use force as a last resort. I am able to make changes that benefit the lives of the residents much faster than they would ever get out of a city official. I can fix problems with snow removal, requests for a new street light, repairs to facilities, etc. in an instant with the stroke of a pen.

do you have 24/7 armed security?
 

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I can see both points of view, but to me, HOA's are just neighborhood socialism.
 

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Speaking of HOA and the crazy provisions, some have specific requirements as to the material used for rear decks..I have seen HOA demand a guy rebuild a deck because he used composite materials that looked great and was better than wood, but did not conform. They didnt complain when his deck was falling apart...a jealous neighbor reported the composite..what a load of crock..
 

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Year I love the comment about the neighbors might be bothered by your ptz scanning their yard, if you are outside in plain view of your neighbors you have no expectation of privacy and it's no different than someone watching you through their blinds, if you don't like it build a privacy fence or don't live in a cookie cutter neighborhood where the houses are literally 10' apart lol.

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Well that is good, lol, I wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood where people are worried about me peeping them in their yard which is wide open to the public, but that's just me, they tend to be real snooty and self important and sometimes sociopaths, you know, the kind of people that become executives and what not. :p
 

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Well the pole has been up and was waiting on a few last things to get this project up and running. Hoping with fingers crossed I can get the cameras up and running this weekend. I did install my PFB303S PTZ mount on the pole and think it looks pretty cool and can rotate the camera on the pole 360 and position it where I would like it...
 

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Well the pole has been up and was waiting on a few last things to get this project up and running. Hoping with fingers crossed I can get the cameras up and running this weekend. I did install my PFB303S PTZ mount on the pole and think it looks pretty cool and can rotate the camera on the pole 360 and position it where I would like it...
When you're done people may wonder if you put up the camera on the pole or the city :)
 

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I've been thinking about mounting a camera at my place up very high to be able to see out over the trees, but the only real place is on a power pole in my backyard. Unfortunately the power company frowns on people mounting their own gear on their poles. I don't think a reasonably short pole mounted to my chimney would quite cut it.
 

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The mount is approx. 35" higher than the pole that is 11.5' high so the total height is approx. 14' off the ground. These are the 30x zoom which is way more than needed and I plan to paint things high gloss black. With the light below on the pole when you look up at night you don't see pole or anything as it is so bright.

Just hope the heat doesn't kill the cameras, since I live in Houston, Tx and it gets pretty hot. But we also don't get much sun out in the front yard at the hottest times of the year. I did get some help from this website for sunset and months of the year, SunCalc sun position and sunlight phases calculator
 

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@JetG, your in the Ultra Bullet thread, nothing to do w/the PTZ"s.. why dont u go ahead and start a thread in the install pics subforum so we can follow your badass street pole installation alot easier.
 

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Okay wasn't trying to post in the wrong thread, will start one on installing my stuff when I have a min
 

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Ah you europeans know how to use roundabouts thats for sure; when we slap em up here in the states its never that organized.. usually a bunch of confused people driving in circles trying to figure out how to get out an endless loop.
 

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Ah you europeans know how to use roundabouts thats for sure; when we slap em up here in the states its never that organized.. usually a bunch of confused people driving in circles trying to figure out how to get out an endless loop.
Got two right by my house
 
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